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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9717563 times)

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #29385 on: May 05, 2011, 09:39:18 pm »

*slow clap*

Yes.  We can write 5*1*1*1*1*1*1*1... forever and it's still 5.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #29386 on: May 05, 2011, 09:40:35 pm »

Summary: Math is confusing and I'm an idiot. Moving along...
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« Reply #29387 on: May 05, 2011, 09:52:33 pm »

But by this logic, wouldn't -1 itself be 1*-1? Doesn't that just create an endless loop?

Welcome to 11th Grade math.  While the theoretics behind why the interactions between negatives and exponents work the way they do can get ludicrously complicated (wait until you see negative roots), as long as you remember the basic rules of multiplication and problem-order, you'll do fine.

Hey, don't we have a Math Thread somewhere around here?
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« Reply #29388 on: May 05, 2011, 09:55:14 pm »

This seems relevant, even if I'm not actually sufficiently well-versed in mathematics to be sure the particular joke is meaningful.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #29389 on: May 05, 2011, 09:59:25 pm »

 I don't know enough about this universe and character to pass proper judgment, but fuck this guy now.

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« Reply #29390 on: May 05, 2011, 10:02:14 pm »

I don't know enough about this universe and character to pass proper judgment, but fuck this guy now.

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Fuuuuuuuuuuck.

Anyways, the guy who owned the dogs did deserve it big time, but it still makes me so sad.

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« Reply #29391 on: May 05, 2011, 10:07:03 pm »

I don't know enough about this universe and character to pass proper judgment, but fuck this guy now.

I could tell as soon as it pointedly described the meat and intervals between feeding exactly where it was going, and guessed it was going to be a spin on Rorschach.  You know what was going on there, right?
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« Reply #29392 on: May 05, 2011, 10:07:58 pm »

Spoiler: for Watchmen (click to show/hide)

I have a little bit more sympathy for Rorschach given that.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #29393 on: May 05, 2011, 10:09:19 pm »

 I really don't know anything about that universe. And the dogs don't get any karma for what the humans do.
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« Reply #29394 on: May 05, 2011, 10:10:51 pm »

I agree with you, but it's still hard to villainize Rorschach (for once) for having that emotional reaction.
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« Reply #29395 on: May 05, 2011, 10:11:52 pm »

I'm with Salmon on this one, but I can't help but feel bad for the dogs!

Poor, stupid brutes.

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Is it bad that I easily get emotionally invested to side characters in fiction, and sometimes feel bad when they die, sometimes more so than the main characters?

For example, the NERV employees in Neon Genesis Evangelion.

They're little more than exposition people in the series, but when they all got Tang'd, I felt really sad.
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« Reply #29396 on: May 05, 2011, 10:18:29 pm »

Well, anyway, I figured I might as well tell you just in case.  You should read the comic... it's very, very good.  I imagine you'll enjoy it.  Rorschach does not have the happiest life, so if you want to see him getting his... well, you'll get it in spades.


I agree with you, but it's still hard to villainize Rorschach (for once) for having that emotional reaction.

Haha, yeah... he was my favorite character, oddly enough (... I seem to always like the reprehensible weirdos), and I found his actions generally understandable.  A scary flavor of reprehensible, though.
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« Reply #29397 on: May 05, 2011, 10:24:18 pm »

There are very few things in this world that hit me emotionally as much as when dogs have been forced into bad situations. Knowing kind of how dogs think about things, how they process the world around them purely in ways that make sense to their instincts and socialization. Dogs that have been trained to obey a master don't know they're doing anything wrong. Their entire world is built around the social structure that's been ingrained into them.

That comic just reminds me of the kinds of terrible stories I've heard about masters that abuse their dogs, and how the dogs will stay loyal anyway just because they don't know anything else.
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« Reply #29398 on: May 05, 2011, 10:29:49 pm »

 And then you run into all the fucked up situations where they are raised as puppies in bad situations, like neglected in boxes, or abused when young. They are basically regarded as dead as an adult, as they are too socially handicapped for anybody to go through the effort to keep them. And whenever these situations happen it's with a ton of them with hoarders.

 It brings a sad light to people with severe social or mental handicaps, even if not all the factors match up the general sad situation of it all strikes you if you have never had to deal with the human version.
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« Reply #29399 on: May 05, 2011, 10:29:58 pm »

He was my favorite too, actually.  A very interesting character.  He appeals to a dark side I think every person has - one that desperately wishes all the problems of the world could be solved with the first impulse that comes to most people's mind when faced with the abhorrent symptoms of an ill society.  He's also a great portrayal of what you become by embracing that dark side.  In fact, the little comic about the dogs does a decent job of underlining that point which Alan Moore was trying to get across (but was lost on many people).
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Maybe people should love for the sake of loving, and not with all of these optimization conditions.
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