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[Tellemurius]

Rage is very strong emotion, left uncheck and it eats your mind.

[Vector]

Dear people I am currently discussing with elsewhere:

I know that "it's supposed to be fun, which is why we do what is fun and it's easy-breezy."  What I was asking was if there was something else going on, deeper than that, because it seems that people are contenting themselves with reactive pabulum more than anything truly nourishing.

Of course, I didn't put it like that.

But I wanted to enter in an intellectual discourse, not ... this.  Where you tell me, over and over again, "Well, welcome to humanity.  That's the way it is."

Dammit.

[Tellemurius]

Ok you want a harder answer, possible that your emotions are starting to get out of whack from not being expelled or used much. Your mind could be going into another state. Can't say much unless you feel like doing a shrink apt with us.

[Vector]

Ok you want a harder answer, possible that your emotions are starting to get out of whack from not being expelled or used much. Your mind could be going into another state. Can't say much unless you feel like doing a shrink apt with us.

No, it's just that I'm tired of dealing with the stupidity and rank idiocy of most of humanity.

I need to become an academic or something, because this is just making me sad.  Sometimes, elsewhere, I feel like I'm talking to cows that won't stop regurgitating the same old cud they were fed by their owners.

[Tellemurius]

Even in Academics there is stupidity and countless arguments. Hell science, more than 50 percent of our current knowledge is only from our last century due to being held back by disbeliefs and "god".

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I would venture to say that our scientific knowledge is so centered on the present because knowledge grows exponentially, rather than it being held back by unfair skepticism and religion.

[Realmfighter]

And no matter how many times you call Religion stupid no one will be swayed.

[Vector]

I would venture to say that our scientific knowledge is so centered on the present because knowledge grows exponentially, rather than it being held back by unfair skepticism and religion.

Thank you for this.


Seriously, folks.  We have medical and scientific knowledge thanks to religion.  Do I really have to remind you that the ones squirreling away human knowledge for centuries were monks?  It wasn't the non-extant scientists of their age that were doing it, to be sure.

Religion has served an extremely important role in our society, and its knee-jerk demonization is kind of sophomoric.

[Mindmaker]

Really?
I wouldn't go so far as to say that.
Who knows how our progress would have looked like, if we hadn't been bound by religious inhibitions.

[Tellemurius]

I don't hate religion (catholic). I hated the fact that people invoke god to stall science without even a good reason. Example would be stem cell, i swear so many people complained that about the fetal blood stuff, i told them they figured out a way to reverse skin cells back to stem cells with using any fetal fluid yet all i get is "LALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" >_>.

[ECrownofFire]

It's not the religion, it's how people (more specifically, its leaders) use and abuse it. Ultimately, an organized religion has power in it, and some people will want to, try to, and will use it. Whether that's for good or not varies from person to person, not religion to religion, or religion to non-religion (unless it's a cult, I guess...).

And yes, science is exponential. It took humans thousands of years to go from the wheel to chariots to cars, but only 60 years to go from powered human flight to getting to the moon itself.

[fqllve]

Really?
I wouldn't go so far as to say that.
Who knows how our progress would have looked like, if we hadn't been bound by religious inhibitions.

There's no point in speculating like that. Religion is the simplest way to answer questions about the natural world that we have. It only makes sense that it would have developed first.

[Vector]

Really?
I wouldn't go so far as to say that.
Who knows how our progress would have looked like, if we hadn't been bound by religious inhibitions.

My understanding of religion is that for a long time, it was the only thing keeping people from killing each other.  It's a way to negotiate the social contract (in a Rousseau sense).  The thing about people killing each other all the time is that it's hard to do science while that's happening.

Why else would you make up a story about being tortured after you die, if not to regulate negative behavior while on earth?

I don't hate religion (catholic). I hated the fact that people invoke god to stall science without even a good reason. Example would be stem cell, i swear so many people complained that about the fetal blood stuff, i told them they figured out a way to reverse skin cells back to stem cells with using any fetal fluid yet all i get is "LALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" >_>.

Ah, yeah, well... that's unfortunate current-day issues that continue to irritate us =/

[Tellemurius]

My Patron saint is St. Albert the Great, great history about him was he was considered a wizard in his time for experimenting with Chemistry and Physics. He is a patron to science and education.

[Lysabild]

Really?
I wouldn't go so far as to say that.
Who knows how our progress would have looked like, if we hadn't been bound by religious inhibitions.

My understanding of religion is that for a long time, it was the only thing keeping people from killing each other.  It's a way to negotiate the social contract (in a Rousseau sense).  The thing about people killing each other all the time is that it's hard to do science while that's happening.

Why else would you make up a story about being tortured after you die, if not to regulate negative behavior while on earth?

I don't hate religion (catholic). I hated the fact that people invoke god to stall science without even a good reason. Example would be stem cell, i swear so many people complained that about the fetal blood stuff, i told them they figured out a way to reverse skin cells back to stem cells with using any fetal fluid yet all i get is "LALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" >_>.

Ah, yeah, well... that's unfortunate current-day issues that continue to irritate us =/

Romans and Greeks were religious, they made huge advances, same for egyptians. Christians hindered/stopped advancements, while Muslims continued for some time, but later they too stopped, about the time of the renaissance where the western world picked it up again, slowly however, due to the church.