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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20025 on: January 13, 2011, 03:51:07 pm »

It is a very loud, very angry alphabet indeed.

Yeah... on the other hand, if I get to shout at people in Russian instead of getting sissified woman-speak like I did in Japanese, I'll be a happy camper.

(French just kind of stuck to insulting other people's clothing and taste in food, which makes the culture hilarious but wasn't very good for blowing off steam)


It was a harmless one page 1337 joke that will be gone before you even know it.

Like right now, woah.

Sorry for jumping on you--I didn't get the joke.  I thought you meant "for a little bit" like RNG wrote backwards "for a little bit."
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20026 on: January 13, 2011, 04:03:27 pm »

-snip-

My major problem right now is apathy, which results from a combination of issues I had or am having.

Had a severe brunout, while still being in school, which never entirely subsided.
Never had much support from my parents, only constant reproaches.
Very limited social contact, since I graduated, since I have no driving license (my parents wouldn't let me have one until recently and now complain about what's taking me so long). Probably will get better once I enroll at a university.

These are the main points. There would be more to list up, but I feel like those are having the most impact.

I'm not being to fond of medication. Tried it several times for shorter timespans, but always stopped taking them, because either I started feeling well enough, or my depression turned into apathy, which only worsened the situation.
Vector managed to say almost everything I had to say on apathy. Pretty much the only thing one can to with that is to occupy one self with stuff, preferable activities you feel are productive and not the kind of thing you only do escape from the boringness. Of course, I know this is very hard to do in an apathetic state, but yeah, there you have it.

As for the social stuff. Dealing with apathy through activating yourself would most likely help this a bit as well. However, if you believe or feel like you are suffering from issues like social phobia or the like, even not necessarily strong enough to be a real phobia but just a great hindrance, CBT could definitely be something to help with it. Of course, you're not making it out as if it was the case above, I just thought I would mention it again.

Lastly, and I'm not sure how much use this will be to you as I'm not sure such practices exist where you are (I don't even know where you are from for that matter), but in some places over here in Sweden we have special "activity support" (it's not called that, I just don't know how to translate it) for, amongst other things, people who have become isolated and just can't bring themselves to take that big step to reconnect themselves socially to others. Once again, I don't know whether such things are available where ever you are (most likely not, I know) but I thought it was worth a mention and maybe something to look into.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20027 on: January 13, 2011, 04:12:45 pm »

(French just kind of stuck to insulting other people's clothing and taste in food, which makes the culture hilarious but wasn't very good for blowing off steam)
That IS the French way of blowing off steam.  Insult foreigners constantly knowing they can't understand you.

(It was funny when we were out in a Parisian restaurant, and had a French couple near us being rude about English tourists.  Their shock at hearing fluent French from our table later was audible)
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20028 on: January 13, 2011, 04:15:48 pm »

Apathy! Yuck, I had a dose of that earlier. However, some guitar shredding (umm, plucking, howling, grinding, squeezing, coercing, threatening, intimidation) solved that problem.  :)
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« Reply #20029 on: January 13, 2011, 04:16:41 pm »

(French just kind of stuck to insulting other people's clothing and taste in food, which makes the culture hilarious but wasn't very good for blowing off steam)
That IS the French way of blowing off steam.  Insult foreigners constantly knowing they can't understand you.

(It was funny when we were out in a Parisian restaurant, and had a French couple near us being rude about English tourists.  Their shock at hearing fluent French from our table later was audible)

No, I know... I just mean that, since I don't enjoy insulting foreigners about "les vetements super-ringards" and would rather, I dunno, cuss up a big storm with words stronger-sounding than "connard," "salaud," "rosbif," "enfoirer," or "enculer," French is not the best language.

(This goes double for Japanese.  Seriously.  "Chikusho" literally means "beast?"  "Yarou" -> "field man?"  "Temee" -> "You who are in front of my hand?"  [Okay, the last one is pretty awesome]  Compare to, oh, any German idiom and think about it)
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20030 on: January 13, 2011, 04:19:07 pm »

(This goes double for Japanese.  Seriously.  "Chikusho" literally means "beast?"  "Yarou" -> "field man?"  "Temee" -> "You who are in front of my hand?"  [Okay, the last one is pretty awesome]  Compare to, oh, any German idiom and think about it)

All of those seem better than English and its obsession with excrement and genitalia.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20031 on: January 13, 2011, 04:20:12 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20032 on: January 13, 2011, 04:25:32 pm »

I suppose "Arschgeige" is pretty much the best swear ever.  Although "Field Man" makes me think "Melon farmer", for some reason.
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« Reply #20033 on: January 13, 2011, 04:30:49 pm »

(This goes double for Japanese.  Seriously.  "Chikusho" literally means "beast?"  "Yarou" -> "field man?"  "Temee" -> "You who are in front of my hand?"  [Okay, the last one is pretty awesome]  Compare to, oh, any German idiom and think about it)

All of those seem better than English and its obsession with excrement and genitalia.

This is true, but note that I'm comparing to German and Russian, not English, for a reason.

English is an astonishingly flexible and useful language, but I wouldn't call it beautiful, interesting, or really anything but "communicative."  At this point, it just seems utilitarian, more than anything else.  And yes, it has an amazing literary history, but I'm still far more impressed by the French work, and the fact that they spent much of their literary history... oh, more than 100 years ahead of us, developmentally.

Ah, well.  I'm looking forward to what they do post-existentialism.


I suppose "Arschgeige" is pretty much the best swear ever.  Although "Field Man" makes me think "Melon farmer", for some reason.

*wishing she hadn't googled it*

Yeah, swearing in German is so much more satisfying.  Polish so far doesn't seem to be quite as good for it.

(I am sorry for all my teachers, who probably think at this point that I learn languages only because I want to be able to curse in them--but being able to swear fluently is only one upside.  Really, it's about the literature and culture, for me, not anything else)
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20034 on: January 13, 2011, 04:34:08 pm »

Hey, can't hate a swear that means "arse violin".
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« Reply #20035 on: January 13, 2011, 04:34:53 pm »

Hey, can't hate a swear that means "arse violin".
You arse violin! :)
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20036 on: January 13, 2011, 04:37:48 pm »

Hey, can't hate a swear that means "arse violin".

WAIT, is that actually what that means?  When I looked around, it was just translated as "pain in the ass" or "dipshit."

Day is made.

In exchange, I offer "grossmansucht," which apparently means "the need to be a big man."  It intrigues me that they have a word specifically for this...


EDIT: Also, 10 vowels?  What the HELL, Russian?
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« Reply #20037 on: January 13, 2011, 04:43:12 pm »

I went briefly.  If you're not willing to pay out money to get someone to see you more than once every month, or you're so scared of talking to people that you'd consider lying to the person in question (and are a good liar >_>), then I don't think it's really worth it in terms of... fixing stuff.

Well it's hard, but doable. My eyes get glassy and my voice a bit unsteady when talking about these sort of personal things.

If it's apathy, I'd strongly recommend going out and trying a bunch of new things.  Learn a new language, study some history, do whatever feels unnatural.  Cook, sew, do cartwheels... and yeah, I know those are all "girly" things, but if girls can go take up facepunching and porn with little flak, it seems only fair to let you do some girl-things, too.  Plus, if you can think of some sort of overarching goal (like my goal to no longer live in the US), you'll be helped out a lot.  It helps even if you can figure out a list of things you don't want to do.

A sort of club would be ideal. However there's little my area has to offer in this direction. I have considered a number of things, which will become an option, once I'll be going to college in Vienna.

(Obviously, you aren't completely apathetic, because you know there's a problem with your apathy.  You've got a good foothold already, doodabuddy)

Could be.
But realising how powerless you are in dealing with it, just adds to the problem.

I'd say... try to find out what's up with your parents.  Talk to them, find out what the situation is.  Of course, that's a very American sort of thing to do, so I don't know how well that will work.  But open communication is generally helpful.

There has never been much talking in my family. A lot of yelling, yes, but very little talking and even less listening or attemting to understand each other.
We don't have much in common, so even a casual conversation is quickly becoming ackward. Discussing our views on different things, often results in an argument and someone storming off furiously.

We can't even watch television together. I just can't stand the voice-overs, that the polish television insists on using and my parents refuse to watch anything in german.

I think distance and some time are needed to unclench that relationship.

And then, more social contact should help the burnout.  I'd almost suggest a penpal.  Hell, I'd love to write someone outside of the US once every month.  Love.  I was just thinking about coercing some people here to write to me.

Considered this myself a year or so ago. I think I dropped the idead, because I was afraid. What if I didn't like the person, or just didn't find much interest in her?
I feared it could become an chore and I didn't want to be impolite.

For other things, I personally keep a fairly extensive journal, just to write about how things have been going lately, where I am, where I'd like to go.  That's really helped, too, because it can actually help with the lack of social contact.  For reference, I'm currently living in a house with some roommates who are pretty much never home, and basically don't talk to anyone but my mom every once in a while.  So, I imagine we're in similar straits, but that journal has been really helping me keep from getting lonely.

I tried keeping one, since self-reflection has always been important to me and I spend a lot of time in my head anyway. Thought it would suit me.
However as soon as I had written something down, it became silly, deprived of all meaning and just false. I prefer my thoughts to stay in my head.
 
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20038 on: January 13, 2011, 04:46:32 pm »

In exchange, I offer "grossmansucht," which apparently means "the need to be a big man."  It intrigues me that they have a word specifically for this...
I'll have to remember this one.  "Dick waving" is getting kindof old.

EDIT: Also, 10 vowels?  What the HELL, Russian?
Hmm... aren't half like hard versions of the others or something?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #20039 on: January 13, 2011, 04:49:11 pm »

I suppose "Arschgeige" is pretty much the best swear ever.  Although "Field Man" makes me think "Melon farmer", for some reason.

Melon farmer is the absolute best insult.

English is an astonishingly flexible and useful language, but I wouldn't call it beautiful, interesting, or really anything but "communicative."  At this point, it just seems utilitarian, more than anything else.  And yes, it has an amazing literary history, but I'm still far more impressed by the French work, and the fact that they spent much of their literary history... oh, more than 100 years ahead of us, developmentally.

Ah, well.  I'm looking forward to what they do post-existentialism.

I always feel like a minority in thinking that English is beautiful. It has an amazing rhythmic quality that isn't really exploited in most poetry. Since most English poetry is written as if it were in French.

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