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[Leafsnail]

Eh, lots of numbers are of dubious existance.  Imaginary numbers may not exist, but they are vital to working out some sums and doing certain tasks.  Which is kindof weird.

[Renault]

If you want to be really debative, you could say that realistically no numbers 'exist', so imaginary are just as real as any other. I'm sure Vector knows more of the theory and whatnot, but its pretty clear that numbers themselves are just ideas. "Seven" isn't a thing, ya know?

[Leafsnail]

Yeah, but you could use the same logic to deny the existence of adjectives.

...I suppose numbers sortof exist in a descriptive sense?

[inteuniso]

My kneecap has had a piece of cartilage and bone sheared off of it, and I have surgery next Monday.

I'm out for the rest of the football season.

[smigenboger]

Adjectives do not state one's existence in full accuracy

Ok I'm done

[Gunner-Chan]

I was thinking about my place here. Again.

I just don't fit into the academia minded people here. Math discussions and other such things explode on the site all the time. I can't even begin to comprehend half of what I read in these discussions and I don't even see the big deal. I'm too practical minded to care about it or respect it.

Further as I keep saying. I have no love for the games hosted here anymore, or the creators of them. I'm going to be totally honest and say mostly because they currently just seem willing to balloon up the complexity without adding any real content, and I just don't see HOW that makes any sense. Makes it more "Fun" I guess but it doesn't make it any more fun at all. Sure I can lose because of a number of new circumstances but that doesn't even matter since losing looks and feels the same anyway no matter what. It's boring. Losing can be fun but I just think it's boring here.

And then back to the community. I find myself liking people here less and less. I can't stand the "dwarfyness" worship, the damn deification of intellectualism, the total disdain for anything "simple" or just enjoyable, the ever growing list of total idiots on here and the overall oppressive atmosphere this place seems to carry now.

I think I'm gonna go. Not like for good wah wah never coming back. Just I think I'm going to be a lot less active. Or maybe I'm just venting. I dunno.

[3]

And then back to the community. I find myself liking people here less and less. I can't stand the "dwarfyness" worship (...) the ever growing list of total idiots on here and the overall oppressive atmosphere this place seems to carry now.

I don't post a great deal down here, but I'm feeling the same way to some degree. I actually see it going on in the upper forums as well (although that may just be cynicism), and it's probably due to the fact there hadn't been a DF release in ages and now there's this sudden influx of new members.

In fact, that might be the root of the problem - I won't comment on anything else, but from what I know, the staple members of this place hadn't changed a great deal until recently. There must've been a point where you warmed to their company and got used to them. This doesn't offer a solution; I'm not trying to offer one. Just stating my... sympathy, I suppose.

[ToonyMan]

It's more forum community then DF fans/old DF fans or whatever.

I don't know what to say Janet.

[3]

It's more forum community then DF fans/old DF fans or whatever.

I think you missed my point. More people playing DF -> more new forum members -> more community members drifting down here, some of whom will stay. Some of whom are idiots.

[Cthulhu]

Janet has a lot of good points.  The dwarf thing is really irritating, Other Games is completely insufferable, and Dwarf Fortress still seems to be working on stuff that won't really make the game more fun.  There's all this awesome stuff in the dev checklist, but it seems so far away.

[ToonyMan]

To be truthful 3, I didn't even read your post.  I was responding to Janet.

[3]

Then that settles that then. Good to see I'm as unnotable as usual.

[Gunner-Chan]

I think in general it boils down that I'm more a guest than a member of the community at large. I'd probably fit better on a Stalker or Touhou board but this is where I ended up.

In a sense I guess that makes me a bit like Vector. Given I came here for other reasons and really don't think too much about DF. Only I'm the tails to her heads given I stand in contrast to nearly everything she's said about herself.  I can't even say I'm emotionally unstable anymore, I'm so chill lately I put duke to shame.

[Il Palazzo]

Further as I keep saying. I have no love for the games hosted here anymore, or the creators of them. I'm going to be totally honest and say mostly because they currently just seem willing to balloon up the complexity without adding any real content, and I just don't see HOW that makes any sense. Makes it more "Fun" I guess but it doesn't make it any more fun at all. Sure I can lose because of a number of new circumstances but that doesn't even matter since losing looks and feels the same anyway no matter what. It's boring. Losing can be fun but I just think it's boring here.

Yeah. Also, these days one can't even make a honest criticism of the way DF is going without hiding it in seemingly unrelated topic.

Also also, just to make sure, this sudden outburst of defeatism isn't in any way related to being dethroned by Vector as the Female Forumite Everybody Wants To Be Friends With(FFEWTBFW), right?
Right?

[Heron TSG]

DF can be fun, and is enjoyable to play at times, but like all good games my interest has waned. I remain here for the community and to watch it grow, though I will likely not play again for a great while yet.