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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9705016 times)

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10065 on: August 16, 2010, 02:48:46 am »

The use of the word fag is what was the issue here, not the use of 4chan parlance. I don't agree with Toady's response but at the very least I can see it's not a big deal. At all.

Like, even a little bit.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10066 on: August 16, 2010, 02:50:22 am »

Where's Duke when you need him?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10067 on: August 16, 2010, 03:12:22 am »

Sunday nights always make me depressed.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10068 on: August 16, 2010, 03:24:40 am »

I'm not sure how to resize pixelated images in Paint.NET without making them look fuzzy.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10069 on: August 16, 2010, 03:32:38 am »

I'm not sure how to resize pixelated images in Paint.NET without making them look fuzzy.

Change 'smooth' to 'pixalated'.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10070 on: August 16, 2010, 03:40:45 am »

I tend to think of most of the slang out of 4chan as word-crutches/lame cop outs for completing thoughts. If you don't have the attention span to say "This person is new to this forum", or "this person does art", you just use "*fag". I understand their use in fast paced Image boards, but this is a forum- its a different sort of culture or should be, in my opinion; People arent just a bunch of "Anons" and its not about cheap "Lulz". There's a community here with reoccurring faces and themes, even if they are just over the internet.

Personally, I detest the use of the "*fag" because its lazy and unoriginal/conformist (non-conformists unite!), not because the word "fag" offends me endlessly. There's a difference in the two usages and, as a "fag" in the pejorative sense, I can tell the difference between the two usages without incident.

I applaud the discouraging of 4chan colloquialisms, but would hardly think it necessary. 
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10071 on: August 16, 2010, 03:54:35 am »

I'm not sure how to resize pixelated images in Paint.NET without making them look fuzzy.

Change 'smooth' to 'pixalated'.
I was trying to use the Resize option under Image, but if I have to do it manually...
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10072 on: August 16, 2010, 03:57:58 am »

The use of the word fag is what was the issue here, not the use of 4chan parlance. I don't agree with Toady's response but at the very least I can see it's not a big deal. At all.

Like, even a little bit.
Which has little to do with the fact that the post in question (if it is indeed the deleted post), would have been deleted not because it used an internet dialect, but because of superfluous similarities to other words in more common dialects, despite having no semantic connection to them in current parlance.



I tend to think of most of the slang out of 4chan as word-crutches/lame cop outs for completing thoughts. If you don't have the attention span to say "This person is new to this forum", or "this person does art", you just use "*fag". I understand their use in fast paced Image boards, but this is a forum- its a different sort of culture or should be, in my opinion; People arent just a bunch of "Anons" and its not about cheap "Lulz". There's a community here with reoccurring faces and themes, even if they are just over the internet.

Personally, I detest the use of the "*fag" because its lazy and unoriginal/conformist (non-conformists unite!), not because the word "fag" offends me endlessly. There's a difference in the two usages and, as a "fag" in the pejorative sense, I can tell the difference between the two usages without incident.

I applaud the discouraging of 4chan colloquialisms, but would hardly think it necessary. 
Slang is less about "crutches" than it is about compressing complex, frequent concepts into single words that fit a part of speech. One cannot comfortably use a phrase as a noun, adjective, or verb, nor can one perform the same permutations on them. In other cases, it serves as an injoke/identifier, revealing that someone is familiar with/exposed to the same cultural elements as oneself. Slang terms only become a problem when coupled with gross (actual) illiteracy and when they begin replicating existing terms the speakers are merely ignorant of, rather than expanding the language.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10073 on: August 16, 2010, 04:03:14 am »

The use of the word fag is what was the issue here, not the use of 4chan parlance. I don't agree with Toady's response but at the very least I can see it's not a big deal. At all.

Like, even a little bit.
Which has little to do with the fact that the post in question (if it is indeed the deleted post), would have been deleted not because it used an internet dialect, but because of superfluous similarities to other words in more common dialects, despite having no semantic connection to them in current parlance.

Well if we're just requoting things then
I don't agree with Toady's response but at the very least I can see it's not a big deal. At all.

Like, even a little bit.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10074 on: August 16, 2010, 04:32:24 am »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10076 on: August 16, 2010, 04:47:34 am »

[knocked off everything but his socks]

Okay, I honestly want to know where that one is from.

My Spanish final exam is in three hours.  I have to be ready to leave in two hours.  I woke up at 9AM (that's yesterday morning for me).  And I hate my job and almost everyone who works there.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10077 on: August 16, 2010, 04:55:10 am »

It's from some stupid anime you would never care about.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10078 on: August 16, 2010, 05:32:26 am »

...would have been deleted not because it used an internet dialect, but because of superfluous similarities to other words in more common dialects, despite having no semantic connection to them in current parlance.

The use of "*fag" must, inevitably, reconcile the fact it contains the word "fag"; The term "*fag", despite its wide use, is not known to everyone. As far as common (American) vernacular is concerned "fag" is still a slur. "*fag" is directly derived from that slur, and not the more archaic uses (unless it could otherwise be proven), in keeping with a tradition of friendly/competitive ribbing. People have every right to be offended, even if those grievances are misplaced. I certainly don't see it as offensive, but to say it was "superfluous" is a bit of an exaggeration. It is still the word "fag" with all of its connotations, much the same way you can use the word "gay" or "jerk off" in a playful way, but you run a chance of offending people anyway.

Not to mention, kids are on the site. For all its worth, even if it is misguided, there is a semblance of trying to offer a safe/accessible environment for everyone.

Slang terms only become a problem when coupled with gross (actual) illiteracy and when they begin replicating existing terms the speakers are merely ignorant of, rather than expanding the language.

Yes, in other words, slang working as a crutch for comprehension.

The gist of my post was I don't feel "*fag" offers much in the way of expansion of the language and in fact hinders it.

My (admittedly limited- "newfag") experiences with the phrase "*fag" has seen it used to the exclusion of other, equally applicable, vocabulary and that the bonds between these slang terms and English can become very tenuous.

Also, I generally just cannot tolerate the spirit of 4chan and the sort of vision it promotes of itself, as I have seen it. Its why I come to places like Bay 12 forums. If everyone started acting like a Channer I'd go somewhere else.

Oh, also, I probably have a bias against 4chan, just in general.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #10079 on: August 16, 2010, 05:39:16 am »

The general tone of 4chan is much more hurtful and simple than the tones of this forum.
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Well, more hurtful if you're not a dwarf or elf, anyways, and who cares about elves?
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