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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9703516 times)

Tiruin

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99645 on: December 08, 2015, 11:05:07 pm »

These last pages and notes on how generalizing concepts can be. :-\ It's a lot better to work in parallel than taking ideas as pointedly as literal points.

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Y'know, maybe do that a page earlier next time. Saves us all some trouble, and it's not like you haven't said what you're saying before.
And please say what you want to say in a much better way than literal interpretation :-\ ; people are describing religious interpretation and not actually religion or the existence of such. It's describing behavior without directly describing context.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99646 on: December 08, 2015, 11:23:56 pm »

I don't think we should be blamed for discussing literal interpretation.  We *can't* discuss everybody's personal-religion-with-context.  They're a thousand different headcanons which we aren't privy to.

Yeah there are relatively common elements...  But with any point we make, someone can chime in saying "*I* don't believe that supposition!"  As if we should have considered every single permutation...
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99647 on: December 08, 2015, 11:30:49 pm »

It's a subtle difference, "I think X group is bad because they believe Y" as opposed to "I think people who believe Y are bad".
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99648 on: December 08, 2015, 11:32:45 pm »

It's a subtle difference, "I think X group is bad because they believe Y" as opposed to "I think people who believe Y are bad".
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99649 on: December 08, 2015, 11:43:04 pm »

I don't think we should be blamed for discussing literal interpretation.  We *can't* discuss everybody's personal-religion-with-context.  They're a thousand different headcanons which we aren't privy to.

Yeah there are relatively common elements...  But with any point we make, someone can chime in saying "*I* don't believe that supposition!"  As if we should have considered every single permutation...
i mean yes but at the same time i think people can be blamed for extrapolating from literal interpretation to "every permutation is loony" which is the thing at issue, isn't it?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99650 on: December 08, 2015, 11:53:55 pm »

Totally!
I don't *think* that happens much here, but it's definitely an unfortunate thing which happens a lot in general.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99651 on: December 08, 2015, 11:57:12 pm »

yeah, bohandas just did literally that though so it was a warranted comment i think
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99652 on: December 09, 2015, 01:41:48 am »

To me, religion is completely unrelated to being a good or bad person. At its core, it's an excuse to do things. Good people use it as an excuse to do good things, bad people as an excuse to do bad things.

Me? I don't need an excuse to do good.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99653 on: December 09, 2015, 01:52:41 am »

It's 1 in the morning, got a final at 9 that I need to wake up at 7 to prepare for, should've gone to sleep an hour or two ago. Just been internetting instead.

I just don't care anymore.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99654 on: December 09, 2015, 01:56:02 am »

i feel like garbage and nobody wants to listen
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99655 on: December 09, 2015, 01:59:01 am »

Just type it out in a sad thread post and scream to the void. Someone will listen. I once said I had fully read every post in this thread after my PTW, and I've kept that record.

I will listen.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99656 on: December 09, 2015, 02:53:03 am »

i feel like garbage and nobody wants to listen

You are not garbage, you can code cool stuff. Well, may be you indeed have minor problems in social skills, but that is just matter of experience ( and those guys without problems with them in your age mostly cant into coding, i would suppose)
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« Reply #99657 on: December 09, 2015, 03:56:03 am »

I just read the saddest book I've read in a long time. It made me cry. I was sitting in the backyard as the sun set, crying. And then the book finished and I was still crying. I sat there for a bit, then got up and came inside without anyone seeing me, and I am still crying. Tears are still streaming down my face. I had wanted to do stuff this evening, but I think I'm just going to go to bed. It's all too sad.

And all this from a book that I bought last year as a backup Christmas present and never read because I thought the beginning was boring.
Now I'm crying some more. I hope no one hears me.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99658 on: December 09, 2015, 04:27:00 am »

Which book was it?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #99659 on: December 09, 2015, 04:33:11 am »

Spoiler: A novel by Sam Savage (click to show/hide)
It's probably not all that sad to anyone else... felt like one big cocktail of things that make me sad tailor-made to get the tears flowing down my cheeks.
Or maybe I'm just kinda sad by default and an easy mark? Not sure. But I don't think I've ever cried that much over a book.
Honestly I can only remember one book that's made me cry before... I am most likely forgetting some in the distant past, though.

Took me fifteen minutes after I made that last post to calm myself down, and I've almost broken down again several times since.
At least my speed-reading skills haven't left me despite how little reading I've been doing the past few years. I finished this in less than half a day, and most of that half-a-day was spent travelling to and from work, doing work, and messing around on the internet.


Edit: Wait, is it a spoiler to say that the book made me cry? Hmm.
Maybe I will do some inventive spoiler-tag-use...
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