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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9786350 times)

Helgoland

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77700 on: June 29, 2014, 07:59:29 am »

Sublimated warfare, anyone? AKA capitalism and football. Both kinds.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77701 on: June 29, 2014, 08:29:59 am »

Yeah, I mean people already get riled up about sports, why not use them to solve conflicts?

Sads: I was nearly late for work because the responsibility of dealing with the alarm clock was apparantly handed over to me while I was still asleep.
because seriously, it's not enough to have to do Jack shit, they can't even watch an alarm clock for me now.

Why do I bother?
I have to get to work, anyway.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77702 on: June 29, 2014, 08:39:26 am »

because last time finland wrecked sweden's shit in hockey, finns went on the modern day equivalent of viking raiding across the border

the fuckery train cannot be halted
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77703 on: June 29, 2014, 08:45:18 am »

I think we can at least agree a world would be a better place if we all would just stop being dicks to each other.

So... if we stop being human and replace ourselves with robots programmed to always make rational decisions based on the good of the populace? :P
Didn't some guy named Burgess write about about such a topic?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77704 on: June 29, 2014, 08:46:39 am »

I like Swinburne's Toy World.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77705 on: June 29, 2014, 08:50:27 am »

I think we can at least agree a world would be a better place if we all would just stop being dicks to each other.

So... if we stop being human and replace ourselves with robots programmed to always make rational decisions based on the good of the populace? :P
Didn't some guy named Burgess write about about such a topic?
Humans aren't dicks. :v
Even inherently.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77706 on: June 29, 2014, 08:55:42 am »

Humans aren't dicks. :v
Even inherently.
No, they learn to be dicks. That doesn't make them non-dicks.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77707 on: June 29, 2014, 08:58:34 am »

I never claimed we were a race of sentient penises.
We do, however, feel emotions- which includes anger, which leads on to violence and war. We also feel happiness, sadness, fear, excitement... the list goes on. You have to take the good with the bad. I could spout off some airy-fairy "yin and yang" nonsense but that would sound dumb and I think the point is made pretty clearly already.
Violence, and greed which often leads to violence, are both deeply ingrained in the human psyche, no matter how deep we bury them.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77708 on: June 29, 2014, 09:06:55 am »

They exist, obviously. They're not ingrained however.
Them 'leading' to anything worse happens generally if they're uncontrolled.

...Also it would be weird if you did claim we were a race of sentient phalluses.
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« Reply #77709 on: June 29, 2014, 09:09:06 am »

...Also it would be weird if you did claim we were a race of sentient phalluses.
I am a phallus that happens to be attached to a set of organs, muscles, bones, and nerves.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77710 on: June 29, 2014, 09:51:06 am »

I still believe that violence and conflict are natural and unavoidable, but warfare on the scale of nation vs nation is not.  It takes a lot of manipulation to motivate a populace to fight in the vast majority of wars... that is when they're not bluntly forced to through some kind of draft.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77711 on: June 29, 2014, 10:07:08 am »

A lot of manipulation? My impression was that it was mostly herd-like behaviour, coupled with tribalism on a larger scale - "Those damn frogs did [X] - now we'll show 'em who's boss!"
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77712 on: June 29, 2014, 10:14:27 am »

Herd behaviour is still manipulation.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77713 on: June 29, 2014, 10:27:25 am »

Herd behaviour is still manipulation.
I think it's more along the lines of "herd behavior can be easily manipulated".
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #77714 on: June 29, 2014, 10:34:56 am »

Well, either way it either causes or is easy to abuse by manipulation.
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