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[miauw62]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

[scriver]

I dunno, bro. Hammering a piece of metal is pretty destructive. Using explosives in mines is pretty destructive. Some... other... things... Look, all I had were metal-work and mining as destructive processes that still create something, okay?! D:

None of these are violence.

You cannot create via destruction. You can break something and then rearrange it into something else, but it's the act of rearranging that makes the new thing, not the act of breaking. Even whatever is left after being broken is defined by its existence afterwards, not the act that breaks it. Violence is occasionally a tool used to prepare for creation -- and has merit precisely to the extent that it does and no further -- but it cannot, itself, create.

Dude, did you not see my supernova example? It's the extreme heat and pressure of the explosion itself that causes the elements to combine in ways that mere fusion cannot do itself - in other words, the very act of destruction is creating new things.

Does that apply to the human world? Possibly not.

Your supernova example has nothing to do with the kind of violence that was being discussed and does not apply to neither the "human world" or the discussion at hand.

[GiglameshDespair]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

[scrdest]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

* Protista are offended by their omission.

[Sirus]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

* Protista are offended by their omission.

What, you folks bigoted against minerals now? Shame on you, Bay 12. Silicon-based lifeforms everywhere don't deserve to be dismissed like that.

[scrdest]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

* Protista are offended by their omission.

What, you folks bigoted against minerals now? Shame on you, Bay 12. Silicon-based lifeforms everywhere don't deserve to be dismissed like that.

We're discussing Earth-based life, not Sun-based one.

[Sirus]

That's even worse! You best check your privilege, Earthling scum. Other chemical makeups are lifeforms too.
_{Okay, this is just gonna get silly.}

[scrdest]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

* Protista are offended by their omission.

You mean protoctista?

Interchangeable, AFAIK. So there's not much reason to dump excess letters in there.

[GiglameshDespair]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

* Protista are offended by their omission.

Not all of them are even multi celled, they can go back to the biological basement of ignominy

[Graknorke]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

* Protista are offended by their omission.

You mean protoctista?

Interchangeable, AFAIK. So there's not much reason to dump excess letters in there.

That's what 'murrica wants you to think.

[scrdest]

Oh and whoever separated animal and human violence, don't.
Humans ARE animals. Otherwise we would be plants.

or lichens

Lichen is a fungus with a symbiotic plant or bacteria. So you'd be a plant, an animal, or a fungus.

* Protista are offended by their omission.

You mean protoctista?

Interchangeable, AFAIK. So there's not much reason to dump excess letters in there.

That's what 'murrica wants you to think.

That's what Solomon, Martin and Berg want me to think.

[Tack]

I like to think that plants, as multicellular organisms, have some form of awareness. They'd have to at least have the level of consciousness affordable to a procaryote.

It's generally what I bring up whenever vegetarians get up me for eating meat.
Trees can bleed, trees can scream. Just because you can't hear it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Monster.

[Descan]

>____> I don't know what kind of neural activity... or... you know, nerve cells at all a tree has.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

>____> I don't know what kind of neural activity... or... you know, nerve cells at all a tree has.

the tree kind.

[Vector]

I talked to a cute girl on the train for an hour and spent like four hours at a party, but I'm still lonely :<