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[Helgoland]

Inb4 butchered Nietzsche philosophy?

[ChairmanPoo]

I'm timid, I'm afraid. Afraid of the future, afraid of examining myself too closely. I've worn a mask for too long, and I'm finding it difficult to put it back on and pretend everything is okay. I look out through the cracks in my mask and see nobody is coming to help me. Nobody can see them. Nobody can see me.

The trick in life, it seems, is to fall gracefully.

Everybody wears masks, as far as I know. Some people's mask cover more of their face than others.
The only problem is most people are too selfish to notice other people also wear masks and need help.

Indeed. We all wear masks to some degree. It's okay to wear a mask. Sometimes though, you have to ask for help. Some people care more than you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOGJ0rIwfU

[GiglameshDespair]

My girlfriends sick with glanduar fever, meaning she both had to miss one of our few possible trips to visit one another, a different social event of her's, and one of her friends birthdays, along with a both of her university stuff, so she'll be busy during the holidays and we'll have even less time to see each other...

She nearly was hospitalised for fluids but her needlephobia meant she wouldn't accept an IV drip so she's just suffering through swallowing liquids. She's sick, and I can't help, see, or even talk to her. Makes me feel kinda useless.

[Skyrunner]

The blank spots in the data are all divide by zero errors. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING T_T

Basically, I ran 360 of the identical single pea plant patch simulation except that I shifted the starting date by 1 day, for the entire 360 day year. I'm getting random divide by zero errors and I can't tell why~

[Korbac]

It's the deception of social masks that I tire of- they're inherent to my every social interaction and present even when just dealing with myself. It's probably where my lack of self-trust has arisen- how can you trust yourself when you cannot be true even to one's own? At least, with a book or game or some such, you needn't respond to you- it's a subversion of deception while delivering emotion, thought, and challenge. Escapism, ho?

In any case, I've taken a few swings at Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil over the past few days. He's... Kind of a douche, from what I'm to understand. First forty pages, he rips on every other philosopher, proceeds to build his own ideas off the ones he's just shot down, makes a handful of assertions based only on his mincing of words, and then makes claims that segregation of social status is and should be a thing and that moral indignation is bad and that an emotional response to any of this makes you an ingrate.

He rubs off as a racist, elitist prick, but what do I know, I'm just another pleb that wouldn't understand his message anyways. :U

I always saw Freud in a similar light. If I'm to argue against him it's because I've got some repressed sexual attraction to my mother? 

[Tiruin]

It's the deception of social masks that I tire of- they're inherent to my every social interaction and present even when just dealing with myself. It's probably where my lack of self-trust has arisen- how can you trust yourself when you cannot be true even to one's own? At least, with a book or game or some such, you needn't respond to you- it's a subversion of deception while delivering emotion, thought, and challenge. Escapism, ho?

I..highlighted something I guess would help.
Perhaps you should modify your outlook on interactions a bit there...the world isn't a casket of deception and lies, with everyone willing to stab each other's guts out or make fun of the other for a minor difference, so my experiences tell me.

[Sinistar]

All this talk about masks leads me to a thought of how wearing a mask is almost despicably entertaining act, once you realize it is you who is doing it and are able to put the mask on and off yourself. When you out on a mask when and how you want and you choose the mask yourself. Mask-bearer becomes mask-maker. All for your entertainment.

Never mind me, just rambling a bit.
Carry on.

[smirk]

I dunno, I think the whole masks thing is a bit misleading. Being social creatures, we react in different ways to different situations as a matter of course. Calling different reacting-methods 'masks' implies that there is some sort of real face underneath, but being alone is just another social situation. If there is a You then it's some sort of total from which these masks are derived, and trying to show it to people would make as little sense as trying to type by replacing every letter with the full ASCII table (even just to yourself, unless you somehow have total awareness of and control over everything in the dark and alien corners of your own mind). Human brains don't work like that. There are always masks people are most comfortable with of course, but calling them the 'real you' is doing yourself a disservice. You're inherently more than that.

Or, more cynically: it's masks all the way down.

[kaijyuu]

Personally I define a "mask" as a behavior you use when outright lying or deceiving other people about yourself. Say you're a huge fan of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but find yourself in a situation with people who hate it. You might downplay or avoid disclosing your fandom, or even lie about it. That's a mask.

Being unafraid to communicate things about yourself is what I define as "mask-less".


Now, in the real world, it still might be prudent to wear one. It's not a good idea to yell at your boss, for example, even if you're angry and think they're a moron.

[smirk]

Fair, but I tend to hold the opinion that people know so little about themselves that it becomes communicating what you want to believe about yourself (consciously or not), which brings it right back to deception again. Self-deception, even. Like how I want to believe I'm making sense and/or not sounding insufferably elitist right now O_0

Not trying to pass moral judgements at all; I just like the mechanics of it.

[kaijyuu]

Also fair, but remember different people partake in different levels of introspection and thus know varying amounts about themselves.


I feel I know myself pretty well, though of course there are still times I surprise or disappoint myself.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

So the simmering infection I've had has finally sprung up just in time for finals week. Glorious. Hopefully it continues to be weak.

[Descan]

I can't get Winulator to detect Caesar3 on my phone. :<

Edit: Unless I put it on my actual phone and not SDCard. So much for the internet guiding me!

[Helgoland]

He rubs off as a racist, elitist prick, but what do I know, I'm just another pleb that wouldn't understand his message anyways. :U

Prick? Definitely, that might be his main appeal. Elitist? Sure, but not in a conventional sense. Racist? Quite the opposite - the reason he stopped being friends with Wagner was the latter's rampant antisemitism, and during his last years he started to consider himself Polish out of disgust at the social and political currents in the Kaiserreich.
It's easy to mistake Nietzsche for a nihilist/Nietzsche Wannabe, but he's actually much closer (paradoxically) to an Anti-Nihilist (as defined by TVTropes).

[Darvi]

[It's easy to mistake Nietzsche for a nihilist/Nietzsche Wannabe,

That'd be like calling Bruce Lee a Bruce Lee Clone.