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[Something Evil]

The residents of Prypiat and half of central and eastern Europe would like to disagree.

3. Meltdowns never happen now as long as correct measures are made.

Well, system failure compounded with human operator error gets you at worst Chernobyl, at best Three Mile Island. And in an emergency, human error is very easy to worm its way in. Also, since most of these things are built and staffed by people well trained and fully aware of what'll happen if they screw up, statistically, the likelihood of catastrophic failure per operating hour is negligible, especially because we've seen what happens when one of these things blows up. Which is why protests against building nuclear power plants are silly.
But on the other hand, if one will go off, it'll leave a mark.
Hell, even assuming everything goes as intended, you're still either stuck importing the fuel, or having all sorts of worried people nosing around in your strategic affairs if you start enriching nuclear fuel on your own.
As for costs, it is, indeed, the initial investment that's the primary deterrent. Over here, with what we've been giving the Russian fuel companies in profit for heating alone ever since the USSR collapsed we could've had that reactor built six times over.

My point is, as PanH so well explained, that it's naive to lob nuclear power (or most any one project) as a panacea for energy problems.

I didn't go to jail. Or prison. And I actually got a phone number from a woman. So. That was surprising, to say the least.

Happy to hear that.

[pisskop]

How'd you manage that?  You went from about to fantasize about that one ugly female guard all year to getting multiple numbers!

[Xantalos]

Hans, I think I have a song for you.

[Truean]

It is ethically impermissible  for me to give a homeless client whose case is assigned to me anything of value....

I will obey this rule; I fear I do not understand it.

[Frumple]

I... isn't...

... doesn't your service taking the case count as something of value being given? I mean. What counts? Almost everything has value, or can be assigned a value. That's a ridiculously vague way of putting it, yes?

E: Also, intermediaries? "You! Random bystander. I will give you ten dollars if you give this person a five dollar meal."

[GlyphGryph]

I'm just wondering if you are allowed to get him court clothes. :/ It seems like stuff directly applicable to you winning his case would be an exception...

[Truean]

I didn't quote the exact rule as written, but trust me, it's pretty iron clad. I'm sure there is some reason for this, though it escapes my ability to understand it. Regardless, it's actually enforced, so I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole.

"Legal Ethics" and morality are almost always mutually exclusive.

I often really like the idea of a corporate accounting job or something. Numbers go in, addition and subtraction happen, different numbers come out. There you go.... I do not enjoy my work often, partially because of things like this. It's also why I try not to talk about it if possible.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Of course, if some Samaritan who is not you suddenly decided to bequeath your client with things of value....

[Truean]

Of course, if some Samaritan who is not you suddenly decided to bequeath your client with things of value....

The problem is, if we thought of it, then the people who regulate this have too.... [shrugs].

Honestly, that is one of the big things that people sink themselves with.

[SalmonGod]

It's not like it's any secret that the law is incredibly biased against the poor and especially homeless, or that this is a common feature of legality in any society.

[Loud Whispers]

It's not like it's any secret that the law is incredibly biased against the poor and especially homeless, or that this is a common feature of legality in any society.

Law in the modern world... It is fair to people.

...But it does not stop law from saying what it thinks is not people.

[SalmonGod]

Pretty much.  The way I see it, the main purpose of social structures since the beginning of civilization has been to divide human beings into varying degrees of personhood, in order to make exploitive and negligent behavior excusable.  The fight for expansion of rights has been a fight to expand definitions and perceptions of personhood.

Kropotkin also says it pretty well -- "The law is an adroit mixture of customs that are beneficial to society, and could be followed even if no law existed, and others that are of advantage to a ruling minority, but harmful to the masses of men, and can be enforced on them only by terror."

[penguinofhonor]

My favorite law quote:

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and the poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

I'm not exactly sure how relevant it is but I like hearing myself talk so I'm going to post it.

[Sirus]

My favorite law quote:

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and the poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

I'm not exactly sure how relevant it is but I like hearing myself talk so I'm going to post it.

Wasn't that Truean's sig for a while? I know I've read it on this forum.

[penguinofhonor]

I think I've heard it on this forum multiple times, actually.