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ToonyMan

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3990 on: April 04, 2010, 07:51:54 pm »

Let's see what happens tomorrow, shall we?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3991 on: April 04, 2010, 10:11:42 pm »

You disappoint me, Professor Poland.

"Prove that every group of order 91 is cyclic?"

Who the hell do you think I am, anyway?  That isn't very hard at all...
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3992 on: April 04, 2010, 10:23:55 pm »

You disappoint me, Professor Poland.

"Prove that every group of order 91 is cyclic?"

Who the hell do you think I am, anyway?  That isn't very hard at all...

First thing that came to mind after reading this: "Yours is the TI-84 that will pierce the tangent!"

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3993 on: April 04, 2010, 10:24:25 pm »

I have no idea what you just said, but I lol'd.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3994 on: April 04, 2010, 10:37:04 pm »

What exactly does a proof entail anyway?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3995 on: April 04, 2010, 10:54:04 pm »

All my dwarves dying of infection and/or underground critter attacks is making me sad.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3996 on: April 04, 2010, 11:27:37 pm »

What exactly does a proof entail anyway?

Imagine writing some lines of code using lots of shortcuts.
Now imagine doing it the super long way.
Now add comments.
On every single line.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3997 on: April 05, 2010, 12:04:38 am »

What exactly does a proof entail anyway?

Imagine writing some lines of code using lots of shortcuts.
Now imagine doing it the super long way.
Now add comments.
On every single line.

No, that's a bad proof.  A proof takes a short statement: "If A, then B" and fills in all the mental trickery with a maximum of clarity and elegance.  There should be no extraneous references or points at which one must make running mental leaps.

Such as the below:

Quote from: Walter Rudin's Principles of Mathematical Analysis, Third Edition, p. 2

We now show that the equation

(1)
p2=2

is not satisfied by any rational p.  If there were such a p, we could write p = m/n where m and n are integers that are not both even.  Let us assume that this is done.  Then (1) implies

(2)
m2 = 2n2.

This shows that m2 is even.  Hence m is even (if m were odd, m2 would be odd), so m2 is divisible by 4.  It follows that the right side of (2) is divisible by 4, so that n2 is even, which implies that n is even.

The assumption that (1) holds thus leads to the conclusion that both m and n are even, contrary to our choice of m and n.  Hence (1) is impossible for rational p.


This is the extremely spelled-out version of the above proof.  If I were to prove the same thing, I'd say:

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Suppose p = m/n, where m, nN are not both even.  Then m2 = 2n2, so 2 | m2.  Thus 2 | m, so 4 | m2.  But then 4 | 2n2, so 2 | n.  Contradiction.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3998 on: April 05, 2010, 12:08:19 am »

Let me give you another proof Vector:

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #3999 on: April 05, 2010, 01:40:20 am »

So I don't need the overly complicated thing that is harder to read than the Silmarillion?
That will save my life.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #4000 on: April 05, 2010, 01:52:32 am »

Ahem. I shall take the teachings of Vector, and attempt this.


'Every group of order 91 is cyclic. Don't go trying to dispute it, because it's true, so there. You were the one who taught me it in the first place, Poland, so you'd want to have gotten your facts right. Point. Proven.'


I changed my mind. I'm GREAT at maths!
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #4001 on: April 05, 2010, 01:55:41 am »

Ahem. I shall take the teachings of Vector, and attempt this.


'The guys I support are super awesome and everybody else is wrong. Don't go trying to dispute it, because it's true, so there. You were the one who taught me it in the first place, Poland, so you'd want to have gotten your facts right. Point. Proven.'


I changed my mind. I'm GREAT at politics/religion/any debate topic ever, but not math!

Fixed that for you.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #4002 on: April 05, 2010, 03:18:54 am »

I support YOU, Ein. But professor Poland didn't teach me that.

... You did.



On an actual sad note:

Playing DF (Who woulda guessed?) and found out that, although you CAN set it so you can exit out of things with the space bar now, you can't make an order for a 'rock table', because pressing space makes you get out of the managment screen! 'Oh, Damn. I'll have to change it back to esc'. BUT NO. Seems that you can't bind esc to a key, because if you try, it takes you to the menu.
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Yeah, he's a banned spammer. Normally we'd delete this thread too, but people were having too much fun with it by the time we got here.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #4003 on: April 05, 2010, 06:48:27 am »

Isn't there a 'reset to default' option?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #4004 on: April 05, 2010, 07:17:44 am »

Isn't there a 'reset to default' option?
Download it again, place in different folder, copy the relevant text file over. Although I'm sure other keybinding schenanegans can be had.
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