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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35490 on: August 18, 2011, 03:33:16 am »

How could He possibly love me? I've failed through my entire life. How could He even want me?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35491 on: August 18, 2011, 03:38:07 am »

I've got to say Dsarker, that doesn't sound like a healthy outlook on life.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35492 on: August 18, 2011, 03:41:18 am »

Ooooh, ok.

Well there's two very good reasons for it:

1) God is omniscient. You are not. He can see things about you that you're oblivious of; perhaps you're not so miserable as you think.
2) Every parent loves their child, even if they have a habit of misbehaving.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35493 on: August 18, 2011, 04:20:50 am »

I read about a child being beaten to death over several hours by her own adoptive parents in the progressive rage thread. It made me sick, literally. Its this sort of shit that helped lead to my depression. I honestly wish I could become more detached from the world around me, as bad as that sounds.

There's 7+ billion people in the world and they are having every possible experience right now from the happiest to the saddest. The broadcast media highlights the saddest tales from around the world in realtime. You can be reading nothing but sad tales continuously if you want to.

Part of the problem is we evolved to live in fairly small close knit family groups of maybe 40-200 people, where you knew everyone and could influence things that you knew were going on. This is what our empathy / social wiring is built to cope with. With worldwide mass media and especially the internet you can know about many things which you can do nothing about, leaving you with the knowledge but no power to affect what you've heard about. This could leave you with a feeling of helplessness.

This would be a case where an adaptive trait (high empathy) becomes maladaptive due to a change in the environment (knowledge of all the problems in the world).

This is something that bothers me frequently, actually.  I hate how people respond to tragic events in the modern day.  I feel like people don't take a broad enough perspective on it, and I call people out on being callous and it makes me seem callous to them... it's something most people just don't seem to be able to wrap their heads around.

For instance:  9/11... I get really really pissed off on that date every year... and not because of the terrorist attack.  I get pissed off because people think something was so special about that event.  Because it gets all this commemoration and people get so incredibly motivated to prevent such a thing from ever happening again.

When on that same day, just the same as any other day, many many many other people globally died of starvation. 

Yeah, I think it's sad when a relative handful of people die in a violent event, and it is certainly an unfair way for a life to end... but is it really more sad or unjust than someone who slowly and painfully starves to death because society refuses to share with them?  Or someone who dies of horrible illness because of corporate greed?  Even in war, we pay so much attention to the violent deaths of soldiers or innocent bystanders caught in crossfire... but the truth is destabilization kills many times more people in a war zone than actual violence.  How many memorials are made to them?  How many of them get anniversary moments of national silence?

But violence is flashy material that the media can easily sensationalize and it's easy for people to get behind supposed solutions that take zero thought.  More security.  More violence.  Hunt those responsible.  Be hunted in return.  In the meantime, ignore those who suffer silently.

It's really hard for me to look at things this way, and then swallow the claims about high empathy coupled with mass media.  I find people extremely callous and selective with their empathy, and usually invest it in issues that frighten them.

If it were up to me, I would forbid any special recognition of any event where people died.  There are too many, none deserves to be singled out, and people only seem to get stupid about it anyway.  It makes me ashamed of the human race to know that we responded to a single event that killed a handful of people by dumping trillions of dollars into causing more death, when those same resources could have been put into infrastructure and relief that could have saved millions of lives from causes of death that are 10x as large and consistent.  Let those who know the deceased mourn and mobilize.  Everyone else should have a moment of silence every single day to recognize that people are dying around the world for unjust reasons every second (more than half of them due to starvation), and that ritual should continue until it changes.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35494 on: August 18, 2011, 05:06:49 am »

Gotta say, just finished that movie and I feel pretty blerghy.

Ugh.  New goal.  Never do that to self again.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35495 on: August 18, 2011, 06:19:38 am »

... I guess we won't be lending you either the HBO mini-series or novel Band of Brothers.

On the sad front, I discovered more "starving artist" friends living in squalor and terrible conditions - they're getting by but still.

Wish I could help more.

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« Reply #35496 on: August 18, 2011, 06:32:09 am »

Gotta say, just finished that movie and I feel pretty blerghy.

Ugh.  New goal.  Never do that to self again.

Well try "Letters from Iwo Jima" instead, i'm sure that will be more soothing. Supposed to be good, I haven't seen it personally though ;)
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« Reply #35497 on: August 18, 2011, 06:37:06 am »

"Letters from Iwo Jima" is a very good movie.  Wouldn't exactly call it soothing though.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35498 on: August 18, 2011, 06:38:14 am »

For soothing, Being there.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35499 on: August 18, 2011, 07:11:16 am »

Blargh why do I keep reading this it gives me a headache.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35500 on: August 18, 2011, 07:50:52 am »

Drama with my sister last night before I left for work. My ma called her on being a lazy, slovenly mother and she went bezerk, deciding to take the baby and leave. When we refused to allow the baby to leave, because that's a really fucking stupid thing to do, she called the police on us.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35501 on: August 18, 2011, 08:02:16 am »

Still feeling absolutely crap.
fucking depression.
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« Reply #35502 on: August 18, 2011, 08:16:40 am »

I need to rant about polish hospitality, once I stop feeling like I'm about to puke.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35503 on: August 18, 2011, 09:20:18 am »

There are times I'm glad that I strive not to conflate my self-identity with the identity of a nation, and one of those times is thinking about how much the United States contributed to the Holocaust.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35504 on: August 18, 2011, 11:07:45 am »

Dreamt that I was at a stand-up comedy show with all my secondary school friends followed by hanging out with a couple of them and a few other people I know. Woke up feeling really happy but then realised how much I missed everyone.
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