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MaximumZero

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #34995 on: August 12, 2011, 08:43:31 pm »
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Quote from: Euld on August 12, 2011, 07:46:20 pm
Mentioning my dwindling faith in God to Christian friends made me sad recently :/  I know they have good intentions in trying to convince me to believe again, but I really don't want to believe in God again.  It's nice to think my own thoughts without worrying which thoughts will lead to sinful behavior.  Yes, mainstream Christianity encourages people to become their own thought police o_O  There's even a differentiation between sinful and godly thinking, to the point that many of my friends believe (although they wouldn't put it this way) that if certain points of theology make no sense to you, then you are thinking "with the flesh" instead of "with the spirit."  And yes I used to believe that too.

It's so weird how I can look at Christian theology objectively now and see how spooky some of it is.

Well, that part of theology is wrong. I've heard the thing before. Typically, you also hear people saying 'You have a body, you are a soul'. It goes against another of the doctrines, that of the bodily resurrection.

I hate to say this, but you're just reinforcing something.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #34996 on: August 12, 2011, 08:45:14 pm »
Euld, tell those who do talk like that that they're basically endorsing Docetism, which means also that there is no reason for them to believe in salvation from sin. Also, they are endorsing Pelagianism as well, which basically means that there is no need to worry about 'thinking with the flesh' anyway.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #34997 on: August 12, 2011, 08:52:42 pm »
Quote from: Vector on August 12, 2011, 08:41:33 pm
Feh.  Giving me crap about using "du" instead of "sie" with him.  What absurdity... we're Amurricans, gorrammit!
Hm. Can't you just, oh I don't know... Block him?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #34998 on: August 12, 2011, 08:54:05 pm »
Quote from: Vector on August 12, 2011, 08:41:33 pm
Feh.  Giving me crap about using "du" instead of "sie" with him.  What absurdity... we're Amurricans, gorrammit!
You're kidding. Someone who's been hostile with you is demanding you use the formal? Just block him, that sounds like narcissistic behavior.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #34999 on: August 12, 2011, 08:56:32 pm »
He wasn't being hostile.  It was a joke.

But yeah, I'm considering defriending him.  Just a bit sad because, you know, math department blah blah.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35000 on: August 12, 2011, 08:58:07 pm »
Quote from: Dsarker on August 12, 2011, 08:45:14 pm
Euld, tell those who do talk like that that they're basically endorsing Docetism, which means also that there is no reason for them to believe in salvation from sin. Also, they are endorsing Pelagianism as well, which basically means that there is no need to worry about 'thinking with the flesh' anyway.
I'll agree with the assertion that they are endorsing Pelagianism, but Docetism is a little far removed from the general Evangelical stance on what happens with the body.

I'm also going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you're either Anglican, or have read NT Wright/people who have been influenced by him.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35001 on: August 12, 2011, 08:59:41 pm »
It does sound like they're disputing the goodness of any body, which was the reasoning behind Docetism.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35002 on: August 12, 2011, 09:01:24 pm »
What a nineball. Everyone knows that the best way to flirt over Facebook typically involves the exact opposite of calling that person retarded, by which I mean complimenting this person when it's relevant (but not when it isn't) and not calling anybody retarded. Because not only does that show a tremendous lack of respect for people other than the intended target of the insult, it also shows an unfortunate lack of creativity*, and really, you need all the help you can get if you're going to try and hit on someone over Facebook with no indication that this is desirable behavior.

*I'm well aware of the hypocrisy inherent in calling someone a nineball and then complaining about creativity, but fortunately I'm not trying to hit on anybody here so there's no call to be impressive.

EDIT: Well, that it wasn't hostile helps to some extent, but I think what I just typed out is still valid. Perhaps. Although, since I don't know the specifics, the part about desirable behavior might not be applicable, but oh well, it doesn't flow right if I delete it.
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« Reply #35003 on: August 12, 2011, 09:02:32 pm »
Hehehehe

Yeah, he is a bit of a nineball, huh?

Come to think of it, maybe I'll play some more Touhou tonight.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35004 on: August 12, 2011, 09:02:39 pm »
Quote from: Vector on August 12, 2011, 08:56:32 pm
He wasn't being hostile.  It was a joke.

But yeah, I'm considering defriending him.  Just a bit sad because, you know, math department blah blah.
"Defriending" as a verb...

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35005 on: August 12, 2011, 09:03:30 pm »
Quote from: Dsarker on August 12, 2011, 08:59:41 pm
It does sound like they're disputing the goodness of any body, which was the reasoning behind Docetism.

I've heard it to the effect that they would believe that Jesus' sacrifice was only meaningful if his body wasn't an illusion because then the temptations wouldn't be present. Then he wouldn't have become a perfect example of how to live your life, if he had not also taken on all of the crap we have to go through on a daily basis. That's the gist of the more Evangelical view, IIRC.
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« Reply #35006 on: August 12, 2011, 09:04:55 pm »
It's stupid social media.  I'd never use that word in context of an actual relationship with a human being.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #35007 on: August 12, 2011, 09:05:37 pm »
Quote from: CrownofFire on August 12, 2011, 09:02:39 pm
"Defriending" as a verb...

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Yeah.  I mean we all know it's defriendificate, how hard is it to get that right??
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« Reply #35008 on: August 12, 2011, 09:06:13 pm »
Oh, okay. That does make a lot more sense.
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« Reply #35009 on: August 12, 2011, 09:14:10 pm »
Yup.

Hahaha "I don't know you, use Sie"

That just makes me have even less desire to be polite.
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