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[Magmacube_tr]

Everyone deals with some level of body dismorphia, even stupidly fit people.

This reads very dismissive.

This reads very dismissive.

This reads very attentive

This reads.

[dragdeler]

d'is

[Loud Whispers]

It’s more to let you know you’re not alone in how you feel.

"Depressed? Everybody feels sad sometimes [clown honk]"

This but we are all Pagliacci unironically

[scriver]

Do not go gently to that good doc

[zhijinghaofromchina]

The first night sleep in college , um ... a little homesick .

[TD1]

Give it time and you'll never want to go home.

[nenjin]

It’s more to let you know you’re not alone in how you feel.

"Depressed? Everybody feels sad sometimes [clown honk]"

My point is even people who are at the bleeding edge of body composition look in the mirror and go "it's not enough." (And then they do a bunch of unhealthy shit chasing that dragon.) There is no escaping feelings of inadequacy, just learning how to feel it without having it damage your goals or your outlook.

So yeah, everyone does feel sad sometimes. The question is, do you feel sad all the time? Is being sad preventing you from doing things which would cause you to not feel sad? Being repulsed by your own appearance and not addressing that internally with a better outlook is what causes a lot of people to give up trying to improve themselves, because they minimize the changes and successes they've made because they're simply too hard on themselves. *I'M* not personally where I want to be in terms of my physical appearance either but I've learned to appreciate where I've gotten to and the baseline that underpins it. Just advising you to be aware of body dismorphia when you look at yourself. Our own perceptions of ourselves can literally twist what we see in the mirror. Don't let that become a reason to stop trying to improve.

[martinuzz]

I look the way I look and I have never questioned it. It has zero influence on my mood or happiness.
I don't understand people who waste their time or money on something as superficial as appearance.
What really bothers me is the amount of people that wear layers upon layers of make-up.
It is so terribly environmentally unfriendly. Not just the make-up itself, but all the removal tissues as well.
Destroy the planet so people won't see a wrinkle or freggles? Go away!
Not to mention that you could have done so much more fun and or satisfying things with all that money you spent on face paint.
Ask yourself. For who are you trying to make yourself more beautiful? For people not willing to look beyond appearances. Would you not rather have friends that like you for who you are instead of for how you look?

Accept that you are beautiful the way nature made you, even (or especially) if you do not conform to the sick perfection porn norm of TV commercials.

Well, okay. I could understand that someone who has a socially crippling deformity would want to fix that, but otherwise? We are all just thinly haired wrinkly apes in the end, and that's completely fine.

EDIT: don't confuse looks with hygiene or with health.
I do shower haha.
And I did lose 10kg over the last year, but that was not because my beer belly bothered me, it was because I developed early diabetes 2 and had to fix that (succes, I am off the meds and diabetes-free within a year)

[Loud Whispers]

Clown makeup, goth makeup and gyaru makeup are all based tho

[hector13]

I lost 10lbs switching from regular soda to diet a few years back.

Evidently aspartame is heavier than sugar.

Probably losing weight because I started eating a bit more sensibly recently but I don’t really care enough to check.

[martinuzz]

What I did:

- No more sugar in coffee and tea.
- if I drink soda, the zero sugar variety
- intermittant fasting. Simply put, no more late night snacks, give your blood sugar curve enough time to drop down to base level. I eat in a 10-hour period, and don't eat in the other 14h. That includes no proper tea after dinner time. I am sorry Loud. Tea with no milk.

- profit. That's all I did to lose 10kg and my diabetes levels of blood sugar and HbA1c within a year. Minimal effort. Sin once a week on beers in the pub, but no more after-beer kebabs.

[nenjin]

*snip*

A couple points.

-Appearances mostly communicate how you feel about appearances.
-They also communicate a lot about you, from how strong you are, to your genetics, to your levels of dedication and commitment to something, taste, preferences, blatant signaling......
-Some people want their outside to reflect how they feel inside. That's why even though I also prefer way fewer cosmetics to more, who the fuck am I to tell someone they shouldn't? The minute you tell a woman that they shouldn't bother with makeup or so much makeup, you miss the important point that 50% of it is about how it makes them feel. Not how it makes anyone else feel. I got a friend who is getting outrageously long fake lashes done and I hate em! I've even asked her why she's doing them and she just thinks that's what fabulous beauty looks like, and they make her feel pretty. Not my taste but if it makes her feel better about herself....there's worse ways to accomplish that.
-And that goes right along with physical fitness. I *like* feeling strong. I *like* being stronger than I was. I *like* feeling my muscles be taut. I *like* the wisdom I've acquired about life and the body in the process. I *like* the struggle. I *like* the attention it's gotten me. I *like* what it did for my self confidence. I *like* what it did for my "get shit done" capabilities across my life. And I *like* all the health benefits that came with it. None of that has to do with impressing or satisfying or improving anyone else except myself.
-You take a pretty big dump on many things tied to someone's identity when you boil down their efforts to "just being about appearances", to not put too fine a point on it. It takes very little to criticize but a hell of a lot to accomplish what people who actually try have done....so which take is the more shallow one?

edit

I'm watching a video on a divorce attorney's take on love and marriage. Regarding physical attractiveness, getting older, all that: "Any stock you hold too long goes down in value. So play the stock right."

[martinuzz]

It is sickening that we live in a society where looks determine your success.

You do make some good points though. If someone uses make-up / works on their appearance just and only for themselves, to not feel crappy, I guess I should not judge that.

I do judge society though for priming people to feel crappy about their looks from the day that they are able to watch a tv or phone screen.

[nenjin]

I mean.....I think it's fairer to say "it's sickening we're sight-based biological organisms that reproduce through sex."

Because that's what underpins it all. Modern society has simply taken the rules most species operate by, and blown it up on the big screen and run it on 24 hour loops. It's taken our species predilection to care about appearance as a marker of fitness for reproduction and blasted it in our eyes 24/7. The clothes we choose (or don't choose) to accentuate our qualities and draw mates. The status symbols that are now as relevant to your fitness as looking like you'd make healthy, surviving babies.

Ironically, the same divorce attorney I was watching spoke to this. "It used to be you'd live in a smaller town where there were maybe 3 or 4 single people that were potential partners and you picked the best from among them. Now, with media in general and social media, you're exposed to options, comparisons and opportunities on a daily basis. That drives our sense of competition and our own focus on our fitness or lack thereof into overdrive."

I even got razzed by some friends recently when talking about, say dental hygienists. Because I said "well, if they're homely at least you know they're probably good at their job." No one liked that but I think it's pretty true. Which is why I try to be careful about overvaluing someone's looks, especially in a professional capacity. What is a good fit for meeting someone at a bar or club or event is not the same thing as what's a good fit for a coworker, or even a serious long-term partner.
 
To go back to my original point, imagine if we weren't sight-based. What if we had no vision and instead operated by pheromones. Or heat levels? (As some of the animal kingdom does.) Would we then object to our society being "smell-based success" or "body heat-based success?" Or what if we were a psychic species and people could know everything about you just by sampling your aura? Would that actually better or would we then create a sub-set of the species that is unloveable, unlikeable and can't even disguise these things from others?

[dragdeler]

The best body image is the place where you're confident that you could grow with any task.. If you're confident you could take on anyone that's too much.