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[Egan_BW]

Yeah, in my experience churches don't seem great at eulogizing. Crushes someone down to one singular aspect.

[dragdeler]

Curse saturday mornings I wish it caused intense pain akin to lemon and chilli juice in the eyes, to be awake on a saturday before noon, on the whole body up their asshole idgaf.

[Vector]

I have been talking to a lot of people lately who are in full-blown "I don't care to take care of my health, because I'm fine with dying in 20 years" mode.

Even with everything I've been through, I never got there. It makes me sad and worried about the future.

[Frumple]

Oh... yeah, I've been there since I was like 12, ha. More seriously as I got older -- I haven't expected to live to retirement age for well over a decade, now. I sorta' take care of my health (mostly because I'm caretaking for my grandparents, but once they go *shrugs*), but, like... not nearly well enough, and between likely inherited issues that's probably not far from kicking up and being poor in a poor area in a shit, shit state, I just don't expect to last that long. Nothing about my life or health or family history or environment suggests it's likely.

It's not entirely a bad thing, though? At last part of it comes from just being okay with dying. I've been up mountains, in caves, from one side of the US to the other. Swam in the ocean, in lakes, rivers. Helped build and repair a house or two, all sorts of stuff. For all I've spent a lot of time as what amounts to a techno hermit due to a lot of reasons (mostly just... hating where I live, pretty intensely, heh), for a long while now I've felt like I've done enough, y'know? I've lived a life full enough to be content with kicking the bucket, and there's precious few people likely to outlive me that I give much of a damn about, so no regret-y things on that front. Long as I can manage shelter and food and something to read I'm pretty content with the thought of just mostly just reading a bunch for another decade or two and then getting to have the best nap ever, the one I don't have to wake up from.

[Vector]

I mean, one of the top line-items on my to-do list is to write my will since I think there's a reasonable chance of being killed in some way through the next five years, but to me, that's different ...

It's one thing to say "I think I may die soon," it's another thing to do things purposefully that you know will accelerate the process.

[scriver]

I'm pretty content with the thought of just mostly just reading a bunch for another decade or two and then getting to have the best nap ever, the one I don't have to wake up from.

That's only how people who take care of their health go. People who don't die slowly, over many years of decades.

[Frumple]

Nah, let be pretty clear on this one: I'm not going to have slow, lingering death. I've seen what that looks like, I've been helping take care of it for the last few years. Either something will take me pretty quick when the time comes, or I'll do it myself.

... though the only reason I haven't got a will done up is because I just... don't really have anything to will, and what little I do I care remarkably little about, heh. Literally all I own is about a week's worth of clothes, a laptop and tablet, and what's in my bank account (which is... sorta' okay for someone in my economic situation -- about a year or two's worth of below-poverty-line income -- but not exactly enough to do much of import with). Standard inheritance process is fine, next of kin hasn't quite pissed me off enough to bother with something else. Did enough research to know I don't care enough to do something unusual with it.

But yeah, I've been calling it passively suicidal, though there's probably a better term. Not at the point of purposefully seeking out self-destructive stuff (if mostly just because most of what I'm particularly inclined towards makes me feel physically miserable nowadays, and I'm exhausted, not masochistic), but there's definitely a major "not taking care of myself" pattern of behavior. Don't have the energy for it, and don't really think trying would make much of a difference. There's just not much help for folks in the position I'm in, can't muster the effort or resources to manage without help, and I don't have any reason to expect that to change before something kills me.

[dragdeler]

TFW when you did everything right to die slowly but faster, licking the tar out of every last cigarette bud, and you still find yourself part of the higher ranks of the cyberdjihad in 2087. Sigh, better luck next time.

[Magmacube_tr]

I don't have plan. I just don't. The answer to the dillema of "Should I just lie down and die, or try to be something?" is very much beyond me. I have no answers. Both seems reasonable and stupid at the same time.

Everything seems so uncertain. So muddy. Nothing is stable except for a slowly approaching, looming presence of entropy coming to take its due from us.

I know life is inherently unstable. But I also know that this current global situation is not normal, and is relatively chaotic.

But, I guess this is how it is.

[EuchreJack]

I try to take care of my health, because I generally believe we live as long as we live regardless of our health decisions.
What I'm trying to change is the quality of my life.
I want to be as healthy as possible for as long as possible.

[martinuzz]

I smoke. I drink. But that's not because I want to die or commit slow suicide, it's because I want to *live*.
I don't need to live a hundred years in good health if I can live 70 having fun and enjoying my freedoms.
Hell, I'll save society tons of money in elderly care, even. I hope it's spent on the future of the younger generations that come after me.
Live life to the max.

[EuchreJack]

I probably shouldn't get too preachy, since I drink like a fish
But smoking means society is going to have to pay for your future poor health. It might take 10 years off your life, but society's gonna pay for your health problems for 10 years leading up to that.

[hector13]

Mm, life is for living. You can live “properly” by doing all the right things for your body, at the end of the day you’ll end up in the same place as someone who shot up every day of their life.

Do what makes you happy, man.

[martinuzz]

I probably shouldn't get too preachy, since I drink like a fish
But smoking means society is going to have to pay for your future poor health. It might take 10 years off your life, but society's gonna pay for your health problems for 10 years leading up to that.

Smoking related healthcare takes up a fair amount of healthcare budget, but it is dwarfed by far by elderly care for the 'healthy' elderly.
It's just that the anti-smoking and healthy lifestyle lobby is much more vocal about the costs than the elderly care homes. And they tend to omit the excise taxes collected by the state on tobacco and alcohol. Not to mention the health benefits of stress reduction and entertainment.
My smoking habits are paying for the elderly care.

[brewer bob]

It's just that the anti-smoking and healthy lifestyle lobby is much more vocal about the costs

Seriously, these folks are one of the main reasons I'm not stopping smoking. Not the only one, mind you, and it ain't that easy quitting, but listening to the anti-smoking blathering directed at addicted smokers makes you just want to smoke even more.

Being addicted sucks health-wise, but it's one of the few enjoyments my poor ass gets, so I won't be dropping it probably until too late.