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[Hanslanda]

Spoiler: Lame-ass whiny rant per usual (click to show/hide)

I am a pathetic fucking lazy lying drug addict. I let depression and boredom and selfishness act as mental shields so I can ignore what I'm doing. I drink about a fifth of whiskey before and after work. I'm desperately hunting more drugs my family can't afford. I don't care about anyone but me. I fucking hate me. Every time I think I've scraped and crawled a little out of this pit of wallowing self-destruction, I find out that nope, I'm right where I started. I look at the people I hate and all I see are partial reflections of myself. This is where I normally make a glib, sarcastic comment to deflect my feelings but fuck that.

[Descan]

What I've hears is that the Golden Age of Islam was closely linked to taking over Hellenic cultural centers eg Alexandria

Or Persian. I can't remember off-hand but I think Baghdad was founded by the Abbadids though.

Yeah, the version of the story that I'd read was that the ancient Persians were the ones who collected and worked on most of the science and worldly observations, and when their old holdings and libraries were conquered by a Muslim lord, he ordered all the texts translated to Arabic so that he'd be able to tell which ones were heretical and needed to be burned.

Several hundred years later, when they were finally finished translating and copying it all, the conqueror was long since dead and forgotten and the Arabic world had turned into the bustling center of trade and information that eventually got sacked during the crusades. And now they had centuries of advanced thinking and knowledge collected during Persia's far-reaching affairs suddenly at their fingertips, allowing the more erudite members of the merchant and noble classes to educate themselves and build upon the principles they found therein. And then, thanks to the commercial and religious networks of the Holy Land, their findings got plenty of exposure and became renowned.

So, it's a combination. They didn't think it all up on their own from scratch, nor did they just steal or claim credit for something. They got a powerful groundwork handed to them, and then were able to build upon it significantly thanks to the economic and cultural situation of their geographical location.

As to whether or not that's the real story, I have no idea. That's just the take on it that I was exposed to, and it made enough sense to me at the time.

If you're curious, the terms you'd want to look up are "Islamic Golden Age" and "House of Wisdom," in Baghdad.

Sufficed to say, whoever told you that was... Quite wrong. Both in timescale (it took at most a generation to get a sizable library of Arab works, and the effect on Islamic society was quite strong within a century) sourcing (it was from "all corners of the world," not just the Persian libraries) and reasoning (nothing about heresy, simply accumulation of knowledge and information)

[Doomblade187]

Spoiler: Lame-ass whiny rant per usual (click to show/hide)

I am a pathetic fucking lazy lying drug addict. I let depression and boredom and selfishness act as mental shields so I can ignore what I'm doing. I drink about a fifth of whiskey before and after work. I'm desperately hunting more drugs my family can't afford. I don't care about anyone but me. I fucking hate me. Every time I think I've scraped and crawled a little out of this pit of wallowing self-destruction, I find out that nope, I'm right where I started. I look at the people I hate and all I see are partial reflections of myself. This is where I normally make a glib, sarcastic comment to deflect my feelings but fuck that.

Anything I/we could do to help? I mean, I know we're just people on a forum, but if there's something.

[LordBaal]

Spoiler: Lame-ass whiny rant per usual (click to show/hide)

I am a pathetic fucking lazy lying drug addict. I let depression and boredom and selfishness act as mental shields so I can ignore what I'm doing. I drink about a fifth of whiskey before and after work. I'm desperately hunting more drugs my family can't afford. I don't care about anyone but me. I fucking hate me. Every time I think I've scraped and crawled a little out of this pit of wallowing self-destruction, I find out that nope, I'm right where I started. I look at the people I hate and all I see are partial reflections of myself. This is where I normally make a glib, sarcastic comment to deflect my feelings but fuck that.

Oh man that sucks. It seems it's out of my capacity to help you beyond being a comprensive ear for your troubles. PM or here if you want to.

Have you tried to get help like rehab, AA or something?

[Hanslanda]

I went through the whole AA and rehab and court mandated sobriety thing before. I know how all that goes and I don't think it would help. Thinking on it now that I'm not in the middle of a severe depressive episode, I do drink too much but I was maybe being too unforgiving and harsh with myself.

Venting my emotional flotsam here often helps me more than anything else I've tried. I really should start taking my actual medication again and stop street-medicating.

Anyway I appreciate y'all being concerned and supportive. Like I said, bay12 is one of the few things that helps.

[LordBaal]

In fact I know this is true, I too vent a lot of crap here and it helps A LOT.

[TD1]

It's great that Toady would create a game which draws together supportive folks.

[Hanslanda]

I actually, in a manic and overly emotional moment, sent a message to Toady thanking him for making this community and explaining how much it helped. He didn't reply but he's a busy guy, I didn't expect or ask for a response. I was just saying thanks.

[smjjames]

I actually, in a manic and overly emotional moment, sent a message to Toady thanking him for making this community and explaining how much it helped. He didn't reply but he's a busy guy, I didn't expect or ask for a response. I was just saying thanks.

How is that a sad? He'd certainly appreciate it.

[Hanslanda]

It was related to the above conversation. Not necessarily a sad on its own.

[scourge728]

The armor games forum is dead

[Dunamisdeos]

The armor games forum is dead

Those are the guys Angry Birds stole their game from.

[scourge728]

The armor games forum is dead

Those are the guys Angry Birds stole their game from.

yes

[Magistrum]

Sad to see flash go.
It was inevitable.

[hector13]

Flash games are still a thing?