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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106185 on: July 20, 2016, 01:00:19 am »

I haven't heard much re: Duerte beyond him being mad conservative.
There are quite a few things that are upsetting about him, but only one of them stands out:
As mayor he formed literal death squads (or at least gave them lists of people to kill, at one point reading the names of people to kill on TV) to go around exacting extra-judicial punishments (aka, murder) on criminals.
As president he seems to be using the police as his death squads instead.
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"In 2015, Duterte confirmed his links to extrajudicial killings in Davao, and warned that, if elected president he, may kill up to 100,000 criminals"

The Philippine Daily Inquirer published a "kill list" documenting the extrajudicial killings of suspected criminals involved in drug trafficking by police that reported 119 people killed since May 10, 2016 and another 72 people killed since his inauguration on June 30.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106186 on: July 20, 2016, 01:30:49 am »

Re: End of the world, It's worth noting that we no longer have the physical capability to nuke the world away.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106187 on: July 20, 2016, 02:04:25 am »

We never had the capacity to nuke the whole world, at the top of the arms race the combined stockpiles of the world could only have 'destroyed' one tenth of Earth's land area, this is frequently misquoted as one tenth of Earth's surface, which is incorrect.  And in actuality we can still do about that much damage, it just takes fewer, more powerful, weapons.

Edited for clarity.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106188 on: July 20, 2016, 02:13:39 am »

If by "nuke" you mean "greenhouse gas", one could make an interesting political observation
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106189 on: July 20, 2016, 03:14:44 am »

If you'll excuse me, Turkey and The Phillipines aren't exactly world powers. Worst they'll do is pull either a Saddam Hussein and invade a neighbour or murder everyone in the country. Nobody really bothers about those things until foreigners start getting caught up in it.
I'm concerned about the people in those countries, not what the leaders will do to other countries.
Well that's democracy for you. People decided to give these guys power.
Normally when I hear a response like that, they add on "and so/therefore they deserve what happens." I'm in the right getting my hopes up and assuming you won't say the same, right?
I wouldn't go so far as to say that, but it would be difficult to feel sympathetic for them if the shit hits the fan.

This does not mean I want anything awful to happen, nor would I be against intervention if it does. Erdogan, for the time being, is probably realizing the media outwith Turkey doesn't spin things the way he wants them to, and I haven't heard much re: Duerte beyond him being mad conservative.
I'll just keep quiet as someone receiving all the news about Duterte firsthand :v

Because it is very complicated (but yeah. The killings.)

I haven't heard much re: Duerte beyond him being mad conservative.
There are quite a few things that are upsetting about him, but only one of them stands out:
As mayor he formed literal death squads (or at least gave them lists of people to kill, at one point reading the names of people to kill on TV) to go around exacting extra-judicial punishments (aka, murder) on criminals.
As president he seems to be using the police as his death squads instead.
Quote from: wikipedia
"In 2015, Duterte confirmed his links to extrajudicial killings in Davao, and warned that, if elected president he, may kill up to 100,000 criminals"

The Philippine Daily Inquirer published a "kill list" documenting the extrajudicial killings of suspected criminals involved in drug trafficking by police that reported 119 people killed since May 10, 2016 and another 72 people killed since his inauguration on June 30.
That's out of context to say 'deaths squads' as is, in the current state. As far as I know, there are interview records as videos on youtube regarding before the June 30th date of him taking the Presidential seat. Check that up for more info :O I can't link it now because I can't youtube. :P

That said:
Re: End of the world, It's worth noting that we no longer have the physical capability to nuke the world away.
*bop*
The 'end of the world' idea is on the extreme end. You'll be dealing with 7 billion + people, not just one or several stories of extreme acts of unethical nature.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106190 on: July 20, 2016, 09:23:40 am »

I believe the correct term for the things people have heard of Duterte is fascist, in the "rule-by-fasces" usage (rather Mussolini's fascism), not conservatism.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106191 on: July 20, 2016, 12:09:39 pm »

Complicated family issue going.

My sister has two kids, the elder of which has been raised by my parents literally his entire life. She has become convinced that all of her problems will magically go away if she moves to Florida -despite her problems being caused by her being an enormously lazy slob that does nothing but sit around smoking pot and chugging Mountain Dew. My parents object to this plan, so she decided to pick him up and slip off to Florida without telling him, and leaving all of his clothes, toys, and everyone he's ever known behind. They block this, she runs off to Florida anyway, and they file for custody. A couple of weeks after filing the paperwork, she shows up with a police escort to seize him, and since the court papers only confirm possession of the child, not custody, the cops forced them to surrender the child.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106192 on: July 20, 2016, 12:10:27 pm »

:o

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106193 on: July 20, 2016, 02:10:23 pm »

Going up to Boise soon, where complicated family issues await. Specifically, my Aunt and Uncle splitting up (due to abuse coming to light and thus pressure to do so), and the issue of cousin custody.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106194 on: July 20, 2016, 06:28:00 pm »

We never had the capacity to nuke the whole world, at the top of the arms race the combined stockpiles of the world could only have 'destroyed' one tenth of Earth's land area, this is frequently misquoted as one tenth of Earth's surface, which is incorrect.  And in actuality we can still do about that much damage, it just takes fewer, more powerful, weapons.

Edited for clarity.

True. Actually, it's noteworthy that nobody admits to still having weapons in the megaton range, AFAIK. There's a lot fewer weapons, and they're a lot smaller. And more accurate, making them drastically more useful against strategic targets, but leaving them far less useful for the "Purpose" of wholesale countervalue groundburst Armageddon tactics.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106195 on: July 20, 2016, 06:39:15 pm »

We never had the capacity to nuke the whole world, at the top of the arms race the combined stockpiles of the world could only have 'destroyed' one tenth of Earth's land area, this is frequently misquoted as one tenth of Earth's surface, which is incorrect.  And in actuality we can still do about that much damage, it just takes fewer, more powerful, weapons.

Edited for clarity.

True. Actually, it's noteworthy that nobody admits to still having weapons in the megaton range, AFAIK. There's a lot fewer weapons, and they're a lot smaller. And more accurate, making them drastically more useful against strategic targets, but leaving them far less useful for the "Purpose" of wholesale countervalue groundburst Armageddon tactics.

Megaton-range weapons (or, for that matter, groundbursrs) were never for "countervalue" targets. For that matter, "countervalue" was more of a retaliation plan than a first-strike one for everyone except the 1950s Royal Air Force (which simply updated WWII Bomber Command maps and called it good). Megaton-class warheads were for hitting dams, submarine pens, missile silos, command bunkers, Cheyenne Mountain, and similar very hard targets that pretty much had to be within the fireball (technically the innermost overpressure zone, but the two mostly coincide) to kill them. Since aiming technology of the 50s and 60s wouldn't allow you to get your warhead within the fireball of a smaller nuke reliable, the solution was to make that inner kill zone big enough you could reliable hit it. For softer targets such as airbases, radar sites, communications nexi, microwave repeaters, and cities the ideal weapon was a two to three hundred kiloton airburst. The weapons of today can be aimed so much more precisely that the giant weapons of the past are no longer necessary for any reason, and the psychological impact of them means that removing them from service is good for diplomacy.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106196 on: July 20, 2016, 06:43:07 pm »

Oh, I'm fully aware, but ground bursting countervalue with megaton bombs is basically the worst-case scare scenario popularized by fiction and misinformed activists.
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Heiterverzweiflung. Not a legit German word so much as something a friend and I made up in German class once. "Carefree despair". When life is so fucked that you can't stop laughing.
http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #106197 on: July 20, 2016, 07:48:02 pm »

I remembered the Ace of Spades game.

Then remembered how Jagex had bought it and fucked it up.
You can still play the old version, but it seems to be populated with hackers and twelve-year-olds accusing people of being hackers. This makes me sad.
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« Reply #106198 on: July 20, 2016, 07:51:17 pm »

There's Openspades.
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« Reply #106199 on: July 20, 2016, 07:54:55 pm »

I remembered the Ace of Spades game.

Then remembered how Jagex had bought it and fucked it up.

I remember buying that and finding it nearly perfect, until whiners added laser beams to the sniper rifles, followed by constant nerfs to what made the game unique.
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