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[Emma]

Spoiler: Teen angst (click to show/hide)

Sorry in advance for the swearing, I'm just really pissed at the moment.
I actually fucking hate myself at the moment. Fucking fucked up a fucking exam and I fucking know it and it was because I was trying to be to fucking smart for myself. Everyone fucking expects me to do the best in this fucking exam and I know that I didn't and now everyone's going to fucking hold it over my head, especially my fucking "friends" and ask me why I didn't come top of the class. Oh and on my friends, those arses always go around telling me that I'm the most arrogant, stupid person they've met. Why do they do it? I don't know no one else in the entire fucking school feels the need to.

online friendships, Hooray.

Everyone makes mistakes

don't underestimate the power of apologies

What OW said, I highly doubt you've ruined your friendship with a single mistake.

[Tiruin]

-snip-

You can always talk to them, y'know It's not ruined if the grounds of communication is always open; Personally online friendships were a way I had to help express myself due to my social anxiety, don't give up just because things went down!

[...]especially people who are cool

mmph ._. please do take care of yourself Kal. I agree here pretty much.

Spoiler: Teen angst (click to show/hide)

Sorry in advance for the swearing, I'm just really pissed at the moment.
I actually fucking hate myself at the moment. Fucking fucked up a fucking exam and I fucking know it and it was because I was trying to be to fucking smart for myself. Everyone fucking expects me to do the best in this fucking exam and I know that I didn't and now everyone's going to fucking hold it over my head, especially my fucking "friends" and ask me why I didn't come top of the class. Oh and on my friends, those arses always go around telling me that I'm the most arrogant, stupid person they've met. Why do they do it? I don't know no one else in the entire fucking school feels the need to.

Spoiler: Personal opinion (click to show/hide)

Your friends may actually be describing your attitude in a way (ie How you interact or act in a general context) than actually describing you, as in your basic existence. In certain ways, they may be telling you that because that's the current way they know how to tell you about things they're concerned with; most people who do such things may care, but may not know how to deliver the idea in a better way. Perhaps, as one way in facing this, you could ask them how to better yourself if they're able to say such things to you. Get their opinion too; work with it, even if they may really come off as a demeaning jerk. It'll only be really condescending if this continues into what they say...when you ask them to help you in a better way.
Swearing is a way on venting frustration--it's commonly learned because that's what is commonly seen; there are better ways to vent than through the use of language, but one has to see which is personally best for them because language as an aside also acts as a reinforcement to behavior. What words you use, also expresses emotion and meaning by themselves, and they can influence how others take your meaning by a lot.

...Also that's less of teen angst, and more of you working with things that frustrate you. Teen angst isn't the right term.

[Emma]

Spoiler: Teen angst (click to show/hide)

Sorry in advance for the swearing, I'm just really pissed at the moment.
I actually fucking hate myself at the moment. Fucking fucked up a fucking exam and I fucking know it and it was because I was trying to be to fucking smart for myself. Everyone fucking expects me to do the best in this fucking exam and I know that I didn't and now everyone's going to fucking hold it over my head, especially my fucking "friends" and ask me why I didn't come top of the class. Oh and on my friends, those arses always go around telling me that I'm the most arrogant, stupid person they've met. Why do they do it? I don't know no one else in the entire fucking school feels the need to.

Spoiler: Personal opinion (click to show/hide)

Your friends may actually be describing your attitude in a way (ie How you interact or act in a general context) than actually describing you, as in your basic existence. In certain ways, they may be telling you that because that's the current way they know how to tell you about things they're concerned with; most people who do such things may care, but may not know how to deliver the idea in a better way. Perhaps, as one way in facing this, you could ask them how to better yourself if they're able to say such things to you. Get their opinion too; work with it, even if they may really come off as a demeaning jerk. It'll only be really condescending if this continues into what they say...when you ask them to help you in a better way.
Swearing is a way on venting frustration--it's commonly learned because that's what is commonly seen; there are better ways to vent than through the use of language, but one has to see which is personally best for them because language as an aside also acts as a reinforcement to behavior. What words you use, also expresses emotion and meaning by themselves, and they can influence how others take your meaning by a lot.

...Also that's less of teen angst, and more of you working with things that frustrate you. Teen angst isn't the right term.

Spoiler: Reply (click to show/hide)

Yeah, it isn't really teen angst, is it? I honestly don't know why I swear when angry, neither of my parents do it, it might just be that I like swearing. I should probably get out of the habit. The thing with my friends isn't like that, at least in my opinion, though. They are fairly well known around the school for being er... Not very nice people and they seem to do it just to see me deny it. I think this because they seem to take great enjoyment in doing other things like calling me fat and laughing at me when I take offense to that.

[Xantalos]

I'd rather keep everyone at arm's length, that way I save the other person the pain of me leaving.

This attitude makes no sense to me. Do you think every relationship you begin will end with you leaving?

Continuing my depressive streak for now ... yeah. You either break up or one of you dies before the other.
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yeah imma move that post in here

Spoiler: enclosed is some giant ramble of nihilism or something (click to show/hide)

Having arguments - well, not arguments as in yelling matches, more as in involved discussion - with people makes me feel incredibly isolated sometimes. No one I know seems to really think about their lives or what they do or why they do things in a rational manner, they just ... follow what their emotions tell them to do. So many people I know profess to relationship troubles when they consistently choose people they know they aren't compatible with because they're 'just looking to have fun', or go drinking excessively and lament their lack of money, or obsess over what other people think of them when it's utterly irrelevant. Not that I'm exempt from this, I've done plenty of stupid irrational shit because of emotional urges, but at least I'm aware of them! Every time I try to talk to someone about this stuff it's like they don't even realize why they do what they do. Like they don't know how to think. People get together because they want to for some inexplicable reason (yeah yeah genetics and all that), they have children - a literally life-changing responsibility that I consider no one but the very wisest sages to ever be ready for - because they succumb to their urges, they dislike people based on irrelevant factors that evoke a sense of unfamiliarity in them that frightens them ... they act on a level lower than thought so often and they don't even realize it.

Hell, I do that too! I have opinions about people that I've formed not because I know said person super well or dis/agree with their viewpoints on certain issues but because the chemicals in my brain influenced my mindset to make it so.

It's ... it makes me feel lonely that no one else that I've met really puts thought into their existence. That ultimately the origin of all the incredible things humanity has accomplished is a coincidental side-effect of biology ensuring that we can reproduce easier. That I my mind myself am not a thing that exists in and of my own permanence but the assemblance of countless other particles, that my depression and nihilistic tendencies are merely the result of preexisting dispositions toward it in my DNA combined with an exposure to factors in my childhood that surpressed my self-esteem and confidence sufficiently that self-sustaining negative mental processes could take hold.

I dislike knowing the scale of things sometimes, because I see how far at the bottom of things I stand on a grand scale and I desire more. And knowing that my existence will likely cease without ever becoming more than it currently is is a saddening thought. Being subject to forces beyond my control - entropy, gravity, the second law of thermodynamics - is bad enough, but the fact that some of them come from within my very body is even worse. There are processes that take place within my body that can change the way I think about things at the drop of a hat, without my consent or anything. How do people not realize how shallow and horrifying that is?

Take love for instance. I know from personal experience that you can fall in love with someone, not entirely voluntarily think about them for 22 hours a day, make every effort to get close to them, literally brute-force parts of your psychological recovery in order to have a better chance with them - I forced myself to not be as much of a hermit as I was at the time in order to be a better fit for this girl - agonize for weeks over whether your desires are truly genuine or just selfish, spend more than a year endlessly thinking about this one person - and then if/when it doesn't work out/you drift apart (in my case high school ended and it never worked out in any case), they can fade from your mind within a few months and you soon find yourself enamoured with someone else, like I did. How in the fuck can you call that love if it fades so easily? How can you be inclined to make such great commitments with someone you know on a rational level isn't compatible with you because your emotions drown that out and then wonder later why it didn't work? How can someone manage to so easily cut someone else out of the life like that - does it imply that all of our current social ties are only a matter of convenience, and if you had no way of communicating with said person you'd forget it eventually? The impermanence disgusts me. Being able to move on like nothing ever happens makes ... love as people call it isn't love as it should be. It's a process designed to facilitate reproduction, and the words bandied about to describe it are false in their entirety. Making promises of forever is a misleading gesture at best. We are all but infants in the eyes of the cosmos, running about attempting to make something meaningful in the infinitesimal time we have before our mortal existences unravel due to imperfect construction of our bodies.

How are people content with this?

[Orange Wizard]

You either break up or one of you dies before the other.

This is the line of thinking that makes people think double suicide is a good idea.

[TD1]

It isn't? Drat.

[Xantalos]

You either break up or one of you dies before the other.

This is the line of thinking that makes people think double suicide is a good idea.

I have to admit I started thinking 'well it worked for Hitler didn't it' but then I realized that aside from Godwin's Law, using Hitler as a relationship model probably isn't the best of ideas.

Though to me double suicide would still be leaving your partner. Consciousness ceases to exist past death, so voluntarily terminating your own existence is still akin to abandoning your partner. You're still never going to see them again. So why leave before you have to?

[TheBiggerFish]

*hugs everybody.*

[Kot]

She came up to me yesterday and she told me that actively ignoring each other might not be the best way to go.
I dunno.

[chaotic skies]

Well, it's (probably) true. You're never going to learn anything about each other and become friends or anything if you don't talk and hang out and stuff.

[miauw62]

2. To the person with a crush (miauw?): I feel you, bro. *joins hug* Is she a good friend of yours? If she's not, I've been told that it's actually easier to be in a relationship with someone if they're already a good friend. Try hanging out more? (but ignore if you like, this is coming from someone with no experience with crush-asking-out)

I was in the same class as her two years ago, but she's not really a friend of mine. I only have one class with her, every Thursday, but there's only three Thursdays left in the year so I really have no idea what to do. And I don't really see any way of hanging out with her more...

I don't have any female friends in general. Trying to go out more just results in me having a lot more male friends >.>

[TheBiggerFish]

Miauw, just...Do something, before you can only regret not doing anything.

[chaotic skies]

Use common sense. Don't do dumb shit, and don't get in trouble. Otherwise, do whatever you want. Or go ahead and get in trouble. It's up to you, I guess.

[TD1]

I would moral-ise that statement by saying "don't do bad stuff."

Because bad stuff doesn't have to be dumb.

[chaotic skies]

Bad stuff tends to fall under the category of "don't get in trouble"