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« on: October 12, 2009, 03:32:35 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091011/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_mexico_apocalypse2012

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Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."

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"If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."

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"It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument Six."

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Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."

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While pressing governments to install protection for power grids, Joseph counsels readers not to "use 2012 as an excuse to not live in a healthy, responsible fashion. I mean, don't let the credit cards go up."

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"No one who's writing in now seems to remember that the last time we thought the world was going to end, it didn't," says Martin, the astronomy webmaster. "There doesn't seem to be a lot of memory that things were fine the last time around."
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Re: 2012
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 03:35:57 am »

B-but...

I wanted Ragnarok to come!
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Re: 2012
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 04:53:39 am »

If only to laugh our asses off.

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Re: 2012
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 05:40:29 am »

B-but...

I wanted Ragnarok to come!
Ragnarok isn't Maya.

SO ITS OKAY!
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Re: 2012
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2009, 05:56:38 am »

Can you imagine every apocalypse happening at the same time?

Okay so the good ones would cancel out the bad ones. But still. AWESOME.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2009, 06:05:06 am »

... The only regret is that we'd be too dead to see it.


That's right. too dead. If all of the apocolypses happened at once, Death would suddenly have levels of dead-ness.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2009, 06:13:32 am »

 And the Apocalypse will happen on 2013 or 2011, just to mess around with us.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2009, 06:43:17 am »

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Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."

A story I heard was about one of the medieval churches (the Roman Catholic I think, but I'm not sure) said that the Apocalypse would happen on in the year of Lord 1000. Naturally people got every upset when it didn't happen, so they revised "Oh it was just a mathematical error it'll happen in the year of Lord 1032." When no Apocalypse came knocking on that date then it was revised once again to the year of Lord 2000. Guess what? No Apocalypse.

I remember when I was a kid watching a documentary on the 2012 Apocalypse. There a scene in it when all the the machines in a modern day house went mental and started killing everybody. Scared the bajizzes out of me.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2009, 07:01:54 am »

They were the only Church back then, so it would have had to be. ;D

Apparently, though, that's a myth. There was no real standard way of keeping time as yet, so some people had "1000" or "M" at different times. Remember, back then, year-reckoning was probably a lot different. Also: Charlemagne's (I think) Empire had fallen some years previously, so I don't think they were very organized at all anymore.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 07:05:16 am »

Well back when they had the "particle cannon" experiment going on it fit. Sorry - Allow me to elaborate.

They were smashing two atoms together to try and break it into smaller parts, so that these parts could be observed. A common fear was that it had a small chance of causing a black hole that would slowly devour the earth. However, the biggest reason for this scare was the fact that the black hole, at the predicted rate of expansion, would take 4 years to completely devour the earth, and the experiment was undertaken in 2008... Coincidence?
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Re: 2012
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2009, 07:12:50 am »

Apart from the fact that they never did any complete tests there due a few magnets breaking?
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2009, 07:17:31 am »

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Re: 2012
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2009, 07:25:00 am »

I thought they did a particle vs wall test to try and ease people into it?
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2009, 07:39:17 am »

Yeah, they did one test that was just that, a test of the hardware. They haven't really activated it yet.

Second of all, it is unlike that they create a black hole. If they do, it will almost instantly evaporate into nothing. By almost instantly, I'm measuring time in nanoseconds.

Second, they are not smashing Atoms together in the LHC, they're smashing Protons.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2009, 07:53:51 am »

Yeah, they did one test that was just that, a test of the hardware. They haven't really activated it yet.

Second of all, it is unlike that they create a black hole. If they do, it will almost instantly evaporate into nothing. By almost instantly, I'm measuring time in nanoseconds.

Third, they are not smashing Atoms together in the LHC, they're smashing Protons.
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Yeah, I thought molecules, but didn't want to seem stupid. Which is what happened. So I shouldn't have really brought it up in the first place and flaunted my lack of knowledge on the matter.

The "goss" I got was that there was a small chance of instant world death, A larger chance of a slow-expanding black hole, and the rest put between a half and half of no black holes, or black holes too small to support themselves. But I wasn't following the science behind it, I was mainly following the people saying "If this works out the way it should, the world actually will end in 2012!"
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