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[Ampersand]

I mean the Nostradamus And Hitler channel.

[Neruz]

Sometimes they do World War 1 as well, just to shake things up a bit.

[Starver]

Reading wikipedia's article on the 2012 phenomenon, apparantly most of the 2012 hype is a viral ad campaign for the movie.

There's a movie?  Well, I was going to say that it was a bit of a pointless campaign, at least as far as letting me know, but then again it appears to have succeeded through the medium of your message, so maybe it has worked.  (Partially.  Apart from it probably being about "the end of the world in 2012", I neither know now care to know anything else about it, right now...  If it gets my bum on a cinema seat it'll have to be through some other means.)

/off the usual advertising radar, it seems.

[Ampersand]

It should just be readily known that the movie has almost nothing to do with the real hype, and that the movie, if anything is just exploiting already existent nonsense.

[TheNewerMartianEmperor]

As indicated above, I'd be surprised if anyone cares.

[Gorjo MacGrymm]

In a side comment to my earlier post, if the mayans were gonna make a calendar that went as far as the apocolypse, wouldn't it have ended with the arrival of the spanish?  just askin

[Ampersand]

Well, no. Because, as the Original Post points out, the Maya are still around.

[Jude]

The movie by this title looks like shit.

[Neruz]

Well, no. Because, as the Original Post points out, the Maya are still around.

Their descendants are, but i'm pretty sure the culture identified as "Mayan" is gone. Isn't it?

[Ampersand]

You could say the same thing about Americans. We're not the same culture we were 200 years ago, are we?

They speak the same language, they've revived the old writing system after it was finally decoded. If you care to simply google Modern Maya, you can get quite a wealth of information about the Yucatan Maya peoples. Their religion is a mix of Catholic and ancient traditional beliefs, and they hold deep respect for the ancient Maya accomplishments.

[Neruz]

You could say the same thing about Americans. We're not the same culture we were 200 years ago, are we?

True, but there's a solid and clear line of cultural evolution from the American culture 200 years ago  to the American culture now. The same cannot be said for the modern Mayan culture.

[Ampersand]

Uhm, no. Just because there aren't good written records (my ancestors burned them all), does not mean that there is not a an unbroken line of decent, of families, of culture. The modern Maya, in many places in the Yucatan, live as their ancestors did after the collapse of the pre-colonial society, and during the post-colonial period.

Just because their records were kept in oral traditions, just because their culture was interfered with by the Spanish, does not mean that there is no clear line from the past to present. It's not as if all the Maya died, and then suddenly there were more later.

[Neruz]

Actually i was under the impression that the culture was dead for a century or so and was later picked up by the descendants.

I will admit i am neither educated in what occured to the Mayan culture, and nor do i really care.

[Maggarg - Eater of chicke]

I'm noticing a distinct lack of discussion of one of the best albums of a Canadian prog band and lots of discussion about a calendar that someone got bored of writing.

[zchris13]

You mean lots, Maggarg.  Not lost.