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[Zombie0hour]

I was wondering the other day, how many people actually have legit version of Flash and Photoshop. So many people have them, and I am doubting they all paid $500+. Just look at all of the flash games that have been made, I wonder how many of those were made with legit versions of flash. But I am not one to talk, my Flash and Photoshop are not legit either. Adobe needs to realize people will not stop pirating their programs unless they lower the price, I mean who pays $1000+ for both Flash and Photoshop?

[Leafsnail]

I don't have either.  If I ever want to animate something (I suck at it, so it's pretty rare) I use my school's copy.  And photoshop... well, GIMP is good enough for my purposes.

[DennyTom]

There are some cheaper editors that can create Flash movies and run scripts. But I do not know if there are any free and even if they are, I strongly doubt users are actually using them.

Yes, piracy in this case will be very high, but still Adobe is making lots of money, so I think they just tolerate it (at least unless authors are using it for fun and not to make money).

[Sensei]

I use GIMP, and there has to be a free flash editor out there somewhere. Just looking around, it seems there's tons that have a free trial with a watermark or whatever, and cost 50-150 dollars for the full version.

[qwertyuiopas]

Swfmill and mtasc: Free, *open source*, command-line based actionscript 2 compiler set. And swfmill only packages the compiled code with the other resources, so it works with *any* compiler.

Also, apparently, mtasc is *better* than the default compiler. Unless you want to use recent language developments.

[Kagus]

Hah, you think Photoshop is outrageous?  Adobe Premiere Pro costs $800.

And Premiere is a worthless piece of junk.

[Zombie0hour]

Hah, you think Photoshop is outrageous?  Adobe Premiere Pro costs $800.

And Premiere is a worthless piece of junk.

Adobe is just asking for the pirating 

[Ampersand]

Hopefully, HTML5 can provide an open alternative to Flash.

If you have a browser capable of html5, then poke around here to see what I mean. http://www.chromeexperiments.com/

[cowofdoom78963]

Ha, I remember back when flash cost only over 300.

Obviously piracy is not an issue for them.

[Vester]

I have Flash 8. EAT THAT ADOBE.

[Neruz]

If Adobe were willing to price their products reasonably, maybe people might buy them.

Instead of, you know, not.


Cause 2 and a half thousand dollars is totally reasonable for the Creative Suite. It's clearly worth half as much as a decent used car.

Or, you know, not.

[Leafsnail]

Woah, seriously?  Sounds pretty ridiculous.  I mean, I could buy an absolutely incredible computer for that much...

[Neruz]

That's the master edition, but the most absolute basic edition for CS4 will rack you up $1800.

Frankly, it's just rediculous. Plus Adobe have a huge reputation as absolute dicks, so with that combined with their massive overpricing they're one of the few companies i don't feel guilty about pirating stuff from.

[Leafsnail]

I suppose if you were a big company that needed the software you might buy it.

Maybe.

[Davion]

That's the master edition, but the most absolute basic edition for CS4 will rack you up $1800.

Might be expensive when you don't have a full time job, but you can save up that amount of money easy after a couple of paychecks if you have even a mediocre income.