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[Akigagak]

Earlier this year, I had an e-mail interview with both Toady and Gabe Newell.
BTW, I don't know if Neruz will let me actually use Half-Minotaur.

It makes my starting Str, before any points are spent, 20.

So, here's my monk//fighter.

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Half-Minotaur Hobgoblin Monk1//Fighter1.

Abilities.

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___Base____Race_____Template____Size Mod____Total
STR 14 ____ -- _____   +4   ____   +8   ____ 26
DEX 18 ____ +2 _____ ------ ____   -2   ____ 18
CON 14 ____ +2 _____   +2   ____   +4   ____ 22
INT 14 ____ -- _____   -2   ____  ----  ____ 12
WIS 10 ____ -- _____   +2   ____  ----  ____ 12
CHA 8  ____ -- _____ ------ ____  ----  ____ 8
Saves.
Will: 3
Ref: 6
Fort: 8

HP: 16

AC: 20
Touch: 14
FFooted: 14


Skill ranks gained at first level.
Jump 4
Climb 4
Spot 3
Listen 3
Swim 2
Tumble 4


Feats:
Improved Grapple (Monk Bonus)
Improved Unarmed Strike (Monk)
Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Spiked Chain (Fighter Bonus)
Power Attack (Flaw Feat)
Cleave (Flaw Feat)
Combat Reflexes


Flaws
Murky Eyed.
Shaky.


Equipment.

Armour.
Large Studded Leather Armour. 50gp

Weapons.
Large Spiked Chain. 25gp (2d6+1.5xStr, x2 on crit)
Large Monk Unarmed Strike (1d8+Str, x2 on crit)

[Jervous]

My wizzie without items

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Ryuin Duliand the Raven
Male Gray Elf Wizard 1
Chaotic Neutral
Representing Jervous


Strength 6 (-2)
Dexterity 16 (+3)
Constitution 10 (+0)
Intelligence 20 (+5)
Wisdom 12 (+1)
Charisma 10 (+0)
 Size: Medium
Height: 5' 7"
Weight: 120 lb
Skin: Light
Eyes: Violet
Hair: Silver; Straight; Beardless
 



Total Hit Points: 4

Speed: 30 feet

Armor Class: 13 = 10 +3 [dexterity]

Touch AC: 13
Flat-footed: 10
Initiative modifier: +3 = +3 [dexterity] 
Fortitude save: +0 = 0 [base] 
Reflex save: +3 = 0 [base] +3 [dexterity] 
Will save: +3 = 2 [base] +1 [wisdom] 
Attack (handheld): -2 = 0 [base] -2 [strength] 
Attack (unarmed): -2 = 0 [base] -2 [strength] 
Attack (missile): +3 = 0 [base] +3 [dexterity] 
Grapple check: -2 = 0 [base] -2 [strength] 


Light load:
Medium load:
Heavy load:
Lift over head:
Lift off ground:
Push or drag:
 20 lb. or less
21-40 lb.
41-60 lb.
60 lb.
120 lb.
300 lb.
 



Languages: Celestial Common Draconic Elven Gnome Goblin Ignan Orc Undercommon 


Raven familiar


Feats:

Spell Mastery x1 Spells:
Scribe Scroll [free to wizard]

Traits:


Skill Name Key
Ability Skill
Modifier Ability
Modifier Ranks Misc.
Modifier
Appraise Int 7 =  +5  +2 [raven] 
Balance Dex* 3 =  +3   
Bluff Cha 0 =  +0   
Climb Str* -2 =  -2   
Concentration Con 4 =  +0 +4 
Craft_1 Int 5 =  +5   
Craft_2 Int 5 =  +5   
Craft_3 Int 5 =  +5   
Decipher Script Int 9 =  +5 +4 
Diplomacy Cha 2 =  +0 +2 
Disguise Cha 0 =  +0   
Escape Artist Dex* 3 =  +3   
Forgery Int 5 =  +5   
Gather Information Cha 0 =  +0   
Heal Wis 1 =  +1   
Hide Dex* 3 =  +3   
Intimidate Cha 0 =  +0   
Jump Str* -2 =  -2   
Knowledge (arcana) Int 9 =  +5 +4 
Knowledge (nature) Int 7 =  +5 +2 
Knowledge (planes) Int 7 =  +5 +2 
Listen Wis 3 =  +1  +2 [elf] 
Move Silently Dex* 3 =  +3   
Perform_1 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_2 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_3 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_4 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_5 Cha 0 =  +0   
Ride Dex 3 =  +3   
Search Int 7 =  +5  +2 [elf] 
Sense Motive Wis 1 =  +1   
Spellcraft Int 9 =  +5 +4 
Spot Wis 3 =  +1  +2 [elf] 
Survival Wis 1 =  +1   
Swim Str** -2 =  -2   
Use Rope Dex 3 =  +3   


* = check penalty for wearing armor

This character also has 2 ranks in Speak Languages.
If the familiar is within reach, +2 on spot and listen ("alertness").


Zero-level Wizard spells: 3 per day



First-level Wizard spells: 3 (1+2) per day




Gray Elf:


+2 dexterity / +2 intelligence / -2 strength / -2 constitution (already included)

Immune to magical sleep

+2 racial bonus to saves vs. enchantments

Low-light vision

Proficient with longsword, rapier, longbow & shortbow

+2 racial bonus on listen, search, and spot checks

Notice secret doors

Wizard
Familiar / Alertness, etc.

Bonus Feats (already included)

High intelligence gains bonus spells daily

 
 Class HP rolled 
Level 1: Wizard 4 



 
Ryuin Duliand's Equipment:


0 lb
3 lb
_____
3 lb Weapons / Armor / Shield (from above)
Spellbook x1

Total
 





Raven familiar: Str 1 Dex 15 Con 10 Int 6 Wis 14 Chr 6; Hit points: 2; Initiative +2 (dex); Speed 10 ft., fly 40 ft. (average); AC: 15 (+2 size, +2 dex, +1 level); Claws +4 melee 1d2-5 Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +4, Listen +6, Spot +6; speaks one character language Alertness feat when in arm's reach; improved evasion; share spells; empathic link;

More about Ryuin Duliand:

[Shoruke]

So it is currently game time, and I haven't heard anything further from Toady or Neruz. So just in case whoever has Neruz's IP address right now is having troublems, I can be e-mailed to relay information at shoruke@gmail.com. Also I've got an eye on my private messages box.

Also, if we're going back to D&D v3.5, are we still using v4 of Gametable?

[Akigagak]

Maybe we should all get AIM accounts. Then we wouldn't need to ever visit this thread again except for important information, or if someone isn't online when the game starts.

[Shoruke]

Neruz's profile says he's offline. He probably slept in again... *optimism*

[RAM]

my starting Str, before any points are spent, 20.Abilities.

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___Base____Race_____Template____Size Mod____Total
STR 14 ____ -- _____   +4   ____   +8   ____ 26
DEX 18 ____ +2 _____ ------ ____   -2   ____ 18
CON 14 ____ +2 _____   +2   ____   +4   ____ 22
INT 14 ____ -- _____   -2   ____  ----  ____ 12
WIS 10 ____ -- _____   +2   ____  ----  ____ 12
CHA 8  ____ -- _____ ------ ____  ----  ____ 8

It is my understanding that you do not get size modifiers to your abilities, that is for monsters that gain size increases due to having many hit dice in their race, and incurs an additional increase in CR, their equivalent to LA. The LA on a size increase is probably +2 or 3...

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___Base____Race_____Template____Size Mod____Total
STR 14 ____ -- _____   +4   ____   +0   ____ 18
DEX 18 ____ +2 _____ ------ ____   -0   ____ 20
CON 14 ____ +2 _____   +2   ____   +0   ____ 18
INT 14 ____ -- _____   -2   ____  ----  ____ 12
WIS 10 ____ -- _____   +2   ____  ----  ____ 12
CHA 8  ____ -- _____ ------ ____  ----  ____ 8

[userpay]

*peers around* Nothing? And after not having to do the robotics club meeting to...

[Akigagak]

my starting Str, before any points are spent, 20.Abilities.

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___Base____Race_____Template____Size Mod____Total
STR 14 ____ -- _____   +4   ____   +8   ____ 26
DEX 18 ____ +2 _____ ------ ____   -2   ____ 18
CON 14 ____ +2 _____   +2   ____   +4   ____ 22
INT 14 ____ -- _____   -2   ____  ----  ____ 12
WIS 10 ____ -- _____   +2   ____  ----  ____ 12
CHA 8  ____ -- _____ ------ ____  ----  ____ 8

It is my understanding that you do not get size modifiers to your abilities, that is for monsters that gain size increases due to having many hit dice in their race, and incurs an additional increase in CR, their equivalent to LA. The LA on a size increase is probably +2 or 3...

No, you're wrong there.

If the Base Creature was of Small or Medium size, its size is increased by one category, with all the appropriate changes to its ability scores, etc., plus a +10’ improvement to base movement.  These changes are in addition to the bonuses and penalties listed.

[mengmoshu]

So Neruz has asked me to pass a message on to all of you.  He's been muted so he can't post himself.

His current IP is in his forum sig.  Here it is for ease of access and whatnot:

IP is Currently 59.101.187.111

He can update his sig, so if this IP doesn't work check his sig in one of his posts, like the one at the beginning of this thread.  That's all and thank you for listening.

[Jervous]

New char.

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Ryuin Ulindad the Unpredictable
Male Doppelganger Monstrous Humanoid 4
Chaotic Neutral
Representing Jervous


Strength 10 (+0)
Dexterity 18 (+4)
Constitution 13 (+1)
Intelligence 20 (+5)
Wisdom 14 (+2)
Charisma 10 (+0)
 Size: Medium
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 175 lb
Skin: Black
Eyes: Red
Hair: None
 



Total Hit Points: 32

Speed: 30 feet

Armor Class: 22 = 10 +4 [chain shirt] +4 [dexterity] +4 [doppelganger]

Touch AC: 14
Flat-footed: 18
Initiative modifier: +4 = +4 [dexterity] 
Fortitude save: +2 = 1 [base] +1 [constitution] 
Reflex save: +8 = 4 [base] +4 [dexterity] 
Will save: +6 = 4 [base] +2 [wisdom] 
Attack (handheld): +4 = 4 [base] 
Attack (unarmed): +4 = 4 [base] 
Attack (missile): +8 = 4 [base] +4 [dexterity] 
Grapple check: +4 = 4 [base] 


Light load:
Medium load:
Heavy load:
Lift over head:
Lift off ground:
Push or drag:
 33 lb. or less
34-66 lb.
67-100 lb.
100 lb.
200 lb.
500 lb.
 



Languages: Common Draconic Dwarven Elven Giant Goblin Halfling Terran Undercommon 


Dire Flail [1d8/1d8, crit x2, 10 lb., two-handed, bludgeoning]

Chain shirt [light; +4 AC; max dex +4; check penalty -2; 25 lb.]


Feats:

Armor Proficiency (light) 
Exotic Weapon Proficiency Weapon: Dire Flail

Traits:


Skill Name Key
Ability Skill
Modifier Ability
Modifier Ranks Misc.
Modifier
Appraise Int 5 =  +5   
Balance Dex* 4 =  +4   
Bluff Cha 4 =  +0  +4 [doppelganger] 
Climb Str* 0 =  +0   
Concentration Con 4 =  +1 +3 
Craft_1 Int 9 =  +5 +4 
Craft_2 Int 5 =  +5   
Craft_3 Int 5 =  +5   
Decipher Script Int 6 =  +5 +1 
Diplomacy Cha 1 =  +0 +1 
Disguise Cha 11 =  +0 +7 +4 [doppelganger] 
Escape Artist Dex* 4 =  +4   
Forgery Int 5 =  +5   
Gather Information Cha 0 =  +0   
Handle Animal Cha 3 =  +0 +3 
Heal Wis 3 =  +2 +1 
Hide Dex* 4 =  +4   
Intimidate Cha 0 =  +0   
Jump Str* 0 =  +0   
Knowledge (arcana) Int 7 =  +5 +2 
Knowledge (planes) Int 6 =  +5 +1 
Listen Wis 2 =  +2   
Move Silently Dex* 5 =  +4 +1 
Perform_1 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_2 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_3 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_4 Cha 0 =  +0   
Perform_5 Cha 0 =  +0   
Ride Dex 4 =  +4   
Search Int 5 =  +5   
Sense Motive Wis 4 =  +2 +2 
Spellcraft Int 7 =  +5 +2 
Spot Wis 2 =  +2   
Survival Wis 2 =  +2   
Swim Str** 0 =  +0   
Use Rope Dex 4 =  +4   


* = check penalty for wearing armor

This character also has 3 ranks in Speak Languages.


Doppelganger:


+2 strength, +2 dexterity, +2 constitution, +2 intelligence, +4 wisdom, +2 charisma (already included).

Monstrous humanoid

Darkvision 60 feet

Level adjustment +4

+10 on disguise checks if using shapechanging ability

+4 additional bonus on bluff and disguise if reading minds

Detect thoughts

Change shape

Immune to sleep and charm

 
 Class HP rolled 
Level 1: Monstrous Humanoid 8 
Level 2: Monstrous Humanoid 8 
Level 3: Monstrous Humanoid 4 
Level 4: Monstrous Humanoid 8 +1 to constitution



 
Ryuin Ulindad's Equipment:


35 lb
2 lb
5 lb

9 lb
2 lb
1 lb
2 lb
1 lb
1 lb
5 lb
1 lb
5 lb
1 lb
8 lb
40 lb
2 lb
3 lb
_____
123 lb Weapons / Armor / Shield (from above)
Backpack
Bedroll
Bottle
Jug (clay)
Lantern (hooded)
Locks x1
Manacles x1
Mirror
Mug
Pitcher
Pitons x1
Rations (1 day) x5
Vial (for ink or potions) x10
Waterskins x2
Alchemist lab
Spell component pouch
Spellbook x1

Total
 




More about Ryuin Ulindad:

[Shoruke]

I'll probably have to ask this again on Sunday... but for the Uncanny Trickster, it says

At each level after 1st, you gain class
features (including spellcasting ability) and an increase in
effective level as if you had also gained a level in a class to
which you belonged before adding the prestige class level.
You do not, however, gain the benefit of your previous
class’s Hit Dice, attack progression, skill points, or saving
throws. If you had more than one class before becoming an
uncanny trickster, you must decide to which class to add
each level for the purpose of determining class features.

Does this work with gestalt? For instance, could I choose to apply this to a level in gestalt swashbuckler/fighter, to get the swashbuckler class features and fighter bonus feats?

[RAM]

Well that sounds like something Neruz will need to address next session, but it seems to me that gestalt is meant to balance the classes, so if you could do it with a strong class then if you do it with a weak class it would be appropriate to gestalt it. But I would guess that Neruz will say no on account of it already being prestige classing goodness, so you should go cold turkey on the gestalting dude...
Or perhaps that as a prestige class it already addresses the needs that gestalt addresses.


For myself, I feel that prestige classes are as much of a style choice as base classes, if not more so, and that there are weak prestige classes that could use the boost. One could always say that - *hits the snooze button on the argue with everything panel*

[Heron TSG]

Clerics are listed as Tier 1, but it says nothing about the A.B.C. Ragecleric, which is a cleric that loses some abilities in exchange for some barbarian traits. Barbarians are tier 4, so what ends up being the Tier of the Ragecleric?

Link to Ragecleric (On page 26)

[Akigagak]

For simplicity, you could just go gestalt. Barbarian//Adept.

Adept is a NPC class that gets divine spells at a slower rate than clerics, but at a faster rate than paladins.

[userpay]

Thats from Dragon Mag, didn't Neruz say nothing from Dragon Mag?