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[Mr.Person]

Combat is random, we'd need at least 2 or 3 combats with the same person to determine if they're naturally stronger or not without assists, and by that point, as the last game showed, it's too late.

On the other hand while i hate wasting a good assist, everyone will dogpile me if i don't, so against my better judgment; No Assist.

A coward, eh? Cowardice is scummy. Who would you like to assist? Why are you choosing not to assist? Why would you like to assist?

[Neruz]

Oh, hey. Everyone no-assisted before I even got here.

I will NOT ASSIST.
ExKirby.
With fire.

Yeah.

What?

Combat is random, we'd need at least 2 or 3 combats with the same person to determine if they're naturally stronger or not without assists, and by that point, as the last game showed, it's too late.

On the other hand while i hate wasting a good assist, everyone will dogpile me if i don't, so against my better judgment; No Assist.

A coward, eh? Cowardice is scummy. Who would you like to assist? Why are you choosing not to assist? Why would you like to assist?

You're going to need to explain that logic to me.

As to who i'd like to assist. Dunno. Possibly Kirby cause he kind of got raeped first time round last game and it would be kind of sad if he went down again. Odds are however i'd probably just flip a coin. I believe i made myself quite clear as to why i'm not assisting.

[Mr.Person]

You're not assisting because you're afraid of dying. Only scum is afraid of dying. Then you say you would randomly decide? So you admit you aren't paying attention to the game at all?

[Neruz]

You're not assisting because you're afraid of dying. Only scum is afraid of dying.

Ok what? Seriously, you're going to need to actually explain the logic of this to me because it looks like complete nonsense on my end. I don't want to die because A: I'm out of the game and B: Every tower that dies puts the Cabal one step closer to victory, and i hate losing.

Then you say you would randomly decide? So you admit you aren't paying attention to the game at all?

No, i admit that this being the first fight it is completely impossible to determine who is Cabal, unless somone cocks up royally.

You should probably stop leaping to unsupported conclusions; not only do they tend to fall over, but that actually is somewhat suspicious, since, you know, unsupported conclusions are actually beneficial to the Cabal more often than not.


Honostly, are you actually engaging your brain or are you just parroting what other people have said in the past?

[Neruz]

And hang on, if all the Tower are supposed to be willing to die, doesn't that make the Cabal's job so much easier? All they have to do is sit back and chill while the Tower throw their lives away.

Real productive use of resources there. You're not making any sense at all Mr.Person.

[ExKirby]

*cough cough flame cough cough*

[Leafsnail]

No assist sounds fine to me.

[Mr.Person]

Then you say you would randomly decide? So you admit you aren't paying attention to the game at all?

No, i admit that this being the first fight it is completely impossible to determine who is Cabal, unless somone cocks up royally.

You've confirmed it, I'm voting you into the ring tomorrow. You're trying to convince us that we cannot determine who's scum on day one, which is total and complete bullshit.

[Jim Groovester]

Oh, hey. Everyone no-assisted before I even got here.

I will NOT ASSIST.
ExKirby.
With fire.

Yeah.

Either you're joking or you're a Subtle Wizard. What are you not assisting him with? Attack? Defense? Healing? Speed? I suppose it doesn't really matter.

FoS on Mr. Person for attacking Neruz and not making any sense doing it.

[Mr.Person]

Oh, hey. Everyone no-assisted before I even got here.

I will NOT ASSIST.
ExKirby.
With fire.

Yeah.

Either you're joking or you're a Subtle Wizard. What are you not assisting him with? Attack? Defense? Healing? Speed? I suppose it doesn't really matter.

FoS on Mr. Person for attacking Neruz and not making any sense doing it.

No, he's scummy because he said he would randomly assist somebody in the ring, probably to cover up him assisting his scumbuddy. Now I dunno about you, but in every mafia game I've ever played, randomly determining things was considered very, very scummy. When he said you couldn't figure out who's scum on the first day, that sealed it for me. That's WIFOM, and it's wrong, too. Spreading WIFOM is scummy enough on its own, but when it's incorrect WIFOM, the only thing more scummy is wordlessly bandwagoning.

[Org]

Errr....not much to post.

Pandar is either joking or....yeah, probably joking. But we should watch him.

[Jim Groovester]

No, he's scummy because he said he would randomly assist somebody in the ring, probably to cover up him assisting his scumbuddy. Now I dunno about you, but in every mafia game I've ever played, randomly determining things was considered very, very scummy. When he said you couldn't figure out who's scum on the first day, that sealed it for me. That's WIFOM, and it's wrong, too. Spreading WIFOM is scummy enough on its own, but when it's incorrect WIFOM, the only thing more scummy is wordlessly bandwagoning.

Alright, I get what you're saying. It is a little suspicious that Neruz seems to be covering his ass by saying that people would dogpile him if he assisted somebody. Not terribly so, but still a little.

I won't unFoS you, because I think you're putting words into Neruz's mouth. I don't remember him saying that scum couldn't be found on the first day, he was just saying that determining who's scum based on a duel would be of limited use, because of the random nature of combat, choosing elements correctly, inherent stats from having a battle role, etc. etc.

Further, you asked him who he would assist, and then you jumped on him for saying he'd choose randomly, even though he said that he'd probably be more inclined to assist ExKirby. Again, you're putting words into his mouth, and it looks like you trapped him into making some scummy comments.

Basically, you're acting a lot scummier than Neruz is right now.

And how come you jumped on Neruz with such ferocity when you let Pandarsenic go without a word with his no assistance to ExKirby? If you're going to be horribly suspicious of someone, you might as well do it to everybody.

[Mr.Person]

No, he's scummy because he said he would randomly assist somebody in the ring, probably to cover up him assisting his scumbuddy. Now I dunno about you, but in every mafia game I've ever played, randomly determining things was considered very, very scummy. When he said you couldn't figure out who's scum on the first day, that sealed it for me. That's WIFOM, and it's wrong, too. Spreading WIFOM is scummy enough on its own, but when it's incorrect WIFOM, the only thing more scummy is wordlessly bandwagoning.

Alright, I get what you're saying. It is a little suspicious that Neruz seems to be covering his ass by saying that people would dogpile him if he assisted somebody. Not terribly so, but still a little.

I won't unFoS you, because I think you're putting words into Neruz's mouth. I don't remember him saying that scum couldn't be found on the first day, he was just saying that determining who's scum based on a duel would be of limited use, because of the random nature of combat, choosing elements correctly, inherent stats from having a battle role, etc. etc.

Further, you asked him who he would assist, and then you jumped on him for saying he'd choose randomly, even though he said that he'd probably be more inclined to assist ExKirby. Again, you're putting words into his mouth, and it looks like you trapped him into making some scummy comments.

Basically, you're acting a lot scummier than Neruz is right now.

And how come you jumped on Neruz with such ferocity when you let Pandarsenic go without a word with his no assistance to ExKirby? If you're going to be horribly suspicious of someone, you might as well do it to everybody.

Yes, that's true, but look at it this way: What reason does a townie have for randomly choosing who to assist? There's no reason. What reason does scum have for randomly choosing who to assist? To assist their scum partner without providing a reason or even looking bad for doing so later.

[Pandarsenic]

Yes, I'm joking. I said I'm *not assisting* people.

[Neruz]

Thanks Jim, i have to say that Mr.Person's attempts to skew my words and make up what i was saying entirely have me pretty convinced. At first i thought it was just a genuine misunderstanding but i find it extremely difficult to believe that now.

As for 'covering my ass' so to speak, i was actually just trying to elucidate my thought processes. I dislike 'wasting' opportunities on principle, but as it appears that everyone has elected to not assist anyone, doing so would be incredibly suspicious and to do so randomly would also be entirely unreasonable. Hence why i elected not to.