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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 06:42:33 am »

Actually, fiery clowns burn at 25000 dwarf temperature, while the melting point of adamantine is 50000.
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2009, 06:56:00 am »

Orly? I could have sworn they melted raw adamantine.

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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2009, 07:59:42 am »

Adamantine boils at 50000 and melts at 25000, though it has an insanely high specific heat, so a ‼clown‼ would probably have to stand on top of adamantine for the better part of a year to ever melt it.

Also, cave-in dust was tested here and was shown to be entirely ineffective. Hell, the OP was even fully aware of that test when he suggested using webs, so there's no point in even considering cave-ins as a means of capturing them - the only thing a cave-in can do to a ‼clown‼ is crush it outright - cave-ins are currently capable of instantly destroying any creature directly underneath them.
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 10:03:42 am »

Fire clowns aren't captureable in any way.  They have NOPAIN and NOSTUN.  That means you cannot render them unconscious or stun them which would overwrite the TRAPAVOID tag.  Water Clowns, Multi-leg Clowns and the Ring Leader Clowns don't have those tags so you can capture them with a cave-in.
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2009, 11:26:32 am »

Fire clowns aren't captureable in any way.  They have NOPAIN and NOSTUN.  That means you cannot render them unconscious or stun them which would overwrite the TRAPAVOID tag.  Water Clowns, Multi-leg Clowns and the Ring Leader Clowns don't have those tags so you can capture them with a cave-in.

...But again, neither of those tags are [WEBIMMUNE]
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 03:43:20 pm »

Is there honestly any reason to try and spoiler HFS or talk around it?  Everybody that reads the forums knows what it is by this point.

Heck, the funhouse-references have obfuscated HFS so much that I'm not even sure what they are any more, and I'd known HFS for a while.  Is it just an obscure way of referencing them or is this the result of a mod?
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2009, 05:05:00 pm »

It's an obscure way of referencing them. It was presumably also intended to be amusing.
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2009, 05:22:48 pm »

Yeah. Because everybody is scared of clowns.  And so we are scared of ‼clowns‼
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2009, 06:39:21 pm »

This is *frumple* talk for the *sad animals*.  But you are *happy campers*!  It is *alliance party* for a time.
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2009, 06:56:16 pm »

Can we get back on topic? I find the original question interesting.

However... dwarves dont actually have (TRAPAVOID) per se, do they? Thus the web thingie might just be a faulty deduction, no?

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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2009, 07:27:41 pm »

The reasoning is thus:

A: Friendly dwarves do not trigger traps.
B: Unconscious dwarves do trigger traps.

Conclusion 1: Unconscious state overrides trap avoidance.

Given A + B leads to conclusion 1, examine A + C.

C: Webbed dwarves do trigger traps.
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Re: Capturing fiery clowns?
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2009, 07:43:48 pm »

Is there honestly any reason to try and spoiler HFS or talk around it?  Everybody that reads the forums knows what it is by this point.

Heck, the funhouse-references have obfuscated HFS so much that I'm not even sure what they are any more, and I'd known HFS for a while.  Is it just an obscure way of referencing them or is this the result of a mod?
Well, you two and the regulars might, but new people and lurkers might not.  Seriously, let them find out for themselves.
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