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[Vicid]

So I recently read the Morul thread at work on my PSP and I started to wonder: how would one train children from a young age to become master warriors?

Basically I need to figure out how to get my dwarves to reproduce a lot.  Then I need to figure out how to get all the children separated from their parents and find out how to make these kids raise their skills in something so that their stats become super dwarven.  Can you get good stats from only socializing?

Even if you can, I'd rather figure out a way to increase their combat skills at an early age.  Is it possible that non-military dwarves will arm themselves in a fight?  Would children?  Is there some kind of violent yet not-too-deadly animal I could breed and pit in the room with the children to increase their combat skills?

Also (and this one is only slightly important) do dwarves use deadly force to defend themselves against other tantruming dwarves?  I'm trying to figure out how the end of their training should include the slaying of a Helot, but I suppose a caged goblin will have to do.

[shadowclasper]

Firstly, you get loads of babies by having LOTS of idlers and social dwarves. Make a meeting hall 1 square wide and that's -IT- nothing else but some nice looking statues and such surrounding it. All your dwarves will pile in and socialize like mad. Lots of lovers and spouses will ensue.

As for warrior training. I'm as clueless as you are.

[Derakon]

Socializing certainly raises stats. The Civilization Forge mod allows dogs to socialize, for example; after a few years of parking on my meeting zone, I had Superdogly Tough dogs that were Grand-Master Liars.

As for training combat skills: civilians will not equip any armor or weapons unless they are hunters. Since you can't assign labors to children (without using a utility), hunting is out. You could try forcing them to fight by dropping weak wildlife on them, but anything remotely dangerous would trounce unarmored children.

[Vicid]

What about dropping the animals from a few Z levels?  With a few broken legs I'm sure my children can earn some skill finishing them off.  Once they socialize enough to become very high in str and toughness they can take on unharmed animals and goblins, right?

[shadowclasper]

Not goblins. If you try anything, go for the weakest aggressive creature you know. Macaques maybe? Seriously, wound'em first. THEN try it. Otherwise, forget.

[Vicid]

I've never seen an adult get hurt by a Macaques.  My wood cutter dwarves always mop the floor with them, (admittedly with an axe) so how hard would it be for a child to do it?

Do children have negative modifiers?

[denito]

Be awesome if you could get the dwarf children to fight each other and then keep the winners.

[Ziusudra]

There are utilities that could do that.

[Vester]

I've never seen an adult get hurt by a Macaques.  My wood cutter dwarves always mop the floor with them, (admittedly with an axe) so how hard would it be for a child to do it?

Do children have negative modifiers?

Size, probably. That's the only combat modifier in the raws besides the attacks themselves.

[Firnagzen]

You could also rinse them with water to increase their swimming skill. Set the mist generator above your meeting spot so it drops water on them and then whisks it away.

Sure, you get lots of cancellation messages. But they'll become good swimmers.

[cephalo]

You could also rinse them with water to increase their swimming skill. Set the mist generator above your meeting spot so it drops water on them and then whisks it away.

Sure, you get lots of cancellation messages. But they'll become good swimmers.

I once had an issue with dwarfs passing through an artificial river I made, and the mother dwarfs kept dropping their babies in the river. The babies would be carried by the current to an area that wasn't so deep, and by the time they became children they could just swim out.

[Gergination]

You could also rinse them with water to increase their swimming skill. Set the mist generator above your meeting spot so it drops water on them and then whisks it away.

Sure, you get lots of cancellation messages. But they'll become good swimmers.

I once had an issue with dwarfs passing through an artificial river I made, and the mother dwarfs kept dropping their babies in the river. The babies would be carried by the current to an area that wasn't so deep, and by the time they became children they could just swim out.

This is how all dwarves should start their life.  They must learn to swim as a baby in order to survive.

[KenboCalrissian]

I've never seen an adult get hurt by a Macaques.  My wood cutter dwarves always mop the floor with them, (admittedly with an axe) so how hard would it be for a child to do it?

Do children have negative modifiers?

I've ONCE seen a macaque break a dwarf's leg.  I guess it got a lucky roll?

I have a hard time seeing a child attack anything.  Any non-military dwarves (except hunters) tend to run away from animals before dealing with them - even groundhogs.  You'd have to lock a kid in a really small room with a macaque to get them to fight, otherwise they're just going to circle the room as the kid runs away until it passes out.

[Skorpion]

Kids gain skill in socialising and growing for their entire childhood, so they've got good stats already.

[Vester]

Yeah, but no non-social skills.