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ST-U (Stargate Universe)...reveiw.
« on: October 04, 2009, 04:57:11 am »

Well, I just finished watching the pilot to the newest series of the Stargate trilogies, very enjoyable show for you fans of the SG shows, and for me the location is drool worthy
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In my opinion a very good cast although I dont have any of there names, some nice new Ancient technologies showed off, and like many of the Ancient constuctions has its share of problems...

If you want to see some trailers theres plenty out there, that I wont be looking for any to add here though.

Anything else, well...
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Re: ST-U (Stargate Universe)...reveiw.
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2009, 07:51:45 am »

I felt that the plot would be better for a free(open source?) micro-mmo where someone hosts a server with ~30 other people, the server runs in realtime, and it does not have a stargate theme. (Teleportation to the planet and back, within teleporter range for 6 hours either side, teleportation requires prebuilt base station)

However, it should be able to make a good TV show, though now if someone went to make such a game, they would be accused of being less creative...
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Re: ST-U (Stargate Universe)...reveiw.
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2009, 04:30:55 pm »

I liked it as well. One correction to your spoiler though:
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Re: ST-U (Stargate Universe)...reveiw.
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2009, 04:38:36 pm »

Ah yeah, the first episode is out in the britain on tuesday i think. I shall be watching that for sure.

Mostly cause it has Robert Carlyle in it, and he's pretty awesome.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 06:52:48 pm »

i watched it and was appalled.  The writing was a joke.  The characters are all suck.  Basicly, the producers got a full hardon of BSG envy and scrapped their 10+year long uber franchise (yeah, it was getting hokey, but it was still super popular) and tried to make a "hard core, gritty, all about the characters" show, complete with a ship lost in space searching for earth.  suk suk suk.  Dont even get me started on the whole this ship has never had people on it, it is following yet more ships who never had people on it, to build stargates out real far, and this ship has a stargate on it, so the ancients could gate to this ship so they could gate to the other.....fail.  Or how about, a SHIP NEVER DESIGNED TO BE INHABITED FOR 100,000 + years has had its life support system on THE ENTIRE TIME, THUS USING UP ALL LIFE SUPPORT MATERIALS......fail.  OR the whole, we have a hull breach and the ONLY EMERGENCY DOOR wont shut, because emergency protocal forces it open for safety....what!?  Exposing the ship and crew to a vacuum is the SAFETY PROCEDURE?!  Oh, and to fix the "safety procedure", someone has to go past the door and DIE to SHUT THE DOOR?!  WTF?  AND YOUR TELLING ME THE SMARTEST RACE IN THE UNIVERSE BUILT THIS SHIP?  Are you telling me there wasnt a SINGLE OTHER FRIKKEN BULKHEAD BETWEEN THE OUTER HULL AND THE ENTIRE CORE OF THE G I A N T SHIP TO SEAL OFF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


yeah, i am gonna keep watching tho.... :-\


EDIT:  LOU DIAMOND PHILLIPS?  EPIC FAIL.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2009, 10:05:42 pm »

i watched it and was appalled.  The writing was a joke.  The characters are all suck.  Basicly, the producers got a full hardon of BSG envy and scrapped their 10+year long uber franchise (yeah, it was getting hokey, but it was still super popular) and tried to make a "hard core, gritty, all about the characters" show, complete with a ship lost in space searching for earth.  suk suk suk.  Dont even get me started on the whole this ship has never had people on it, it is following yet more ships who never had people on it, to build stargates out real far, and this ship has a stargate on it, so the ancients could gate to this ship so they could gate to the other.....fail.  Or how about, a SHIP NEVER DESIGNED TO BE INHABITED FOR 100,000 + years has had its life support system on THE ENTIRE TIME, THUS USING UP ALL LIFE SUPPORT MATERIALS......fail.  OR the whole, we have a hull breach and the ONLY EMERGENCY DOOR wont shut, because emergency protocal forces it open for safety....what!?  Exposing the ship and crew to a vacuum is the SAFETY PROCEDURE?!  Oh, and to fix the "safety procedure", someone has to go past the door and DIE to SHUT THE DOOR?!  WTF?  AND YOUR TELLING ME THE SMARTEST RACE IN THE UNIVERSE BUILT THIS SHIP?  Are you telling me there wasnt a SINGLE OTHER FRIKKEN BULKHEAD BETWEEN THE OUTER HULL AND THE ENTIRE CORE OF THE G I A N T SHIP TO SEAL OFF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


yeah, i am gonna keep watching tho.... :-\


EDIT:  LOU DIAMOND PHILLIPS?  EPIC FAIL.

tl;dr: OH GOD MY FAVOURITE FRANCHISE IS CHANGING TO SUIT A DIFFERENT OR NEW AUDIENCE HOW DARE THEY I WAS HERE FIRST THEY SHOULD CATER TO MY INDIVIDUAL TASTES AND NOT THAT OF OTHER PEOPLE PLUS HERE ARE SOME MINOR TECHNICAL NITPICKS BECAUSE FUCK DRAMA I WANT REALISM

Just watched it myself. I loved it.
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Re: ST-U (Stargate Universe)...reveiw.
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2009, 01:23:08 am »


tl;dr: OH GOD MY FAVOURITE FRANCHISE IS CHANGING TO SUIT A DIFFERENT OR NEW AUDIENCE HOW DARE THEY I WAS HERE FIRST THEY SHOULD CATER TO MY INDIVIDUAL TASTES AND NOT THAT OF OTHER PEOPLE PLUS HERE ARE SOME MINOR TECHNICAL NITPICKS BECAUSE FUCK DRAMA I WANT REALISM

Just watched it myself. I loved it.

Ooo Oohh!  I likE play!

OMG SOMEONE MADE AN ARGUMENT AGAINST SOMETHING I LIKE THAT IS A SEQUEL OR SPIN OFF FROM SOMETHING ELSE!  I MUST INSTANTLY JUMP TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE ONLY REASON THEY THINK THAT WAY IS BECAUSE OF AN IRRATIONAL FIXATION ON THE PAST AND THAT THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO REASONING BEHIND THEIR OPINIONS WHATSOEVER!  ALSO SOME OTHER STUFF I CAN'T EVEN BRING MYSELF TO COME UP WITH A HOSTILE KNEEJERK REACTION TO SO I'LL JUST DISMISS IT OUT OF HAND AS UNIMPORTANT!  ALSO I FOR SOME REASON NEED TO POST THIS IN ALL CAPS AND BOLD!

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Re: ST-U (Stargate Universe)...reveiw.
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2009, 02:14:08 am »

I quite liked the writing actually; the characters are infinitely more likable than the Atlantis cast. They're no Richard Dean Anderson, but hey, who is?

Universe looks promising, it's a bit thick at the moment, but most new shows usually are; they have to establish all the cast and whatnot.

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Basicly, the producers got a full hardon of BSG envy and scrapped their 10+year long uber franchise

Actually SG1 was cancelled due to running out of ideas, the original cast leaving and the show sucking without Richard Dean Anderson (the guy who replaced him, i forget the actors name but he played Crichton in Farscape was pretty good. But he wasn't Richard Dean Anderson.)

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complete with a ship lost in space searching for earth.

There's nothing lost about the ship, and they know exactly where earth is. They just don't have the power to gate back. The situation is alot more like Atlantis than BSG, which is good, cause the setting for Atlantis had plenty of potential, the cast just sucked.

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Dont even get me started on the whole this ship has never had people on it, it is following yet more ships who never had people on it, to build stargates out real far, and this ship has a stargate on it, so the ancients could gate to this ship so they could gate to the other.....fail.

Really? It's all established canon. We've known for ages that the Ancients sent out drone ships to plant Stargates on interesting worlds, there was no other way for them to get Stargates all over the universe. The followup ship is new, but makes perfect sense when you think about it. It's just an exploratory ship, as it turns out the Ancients never used it due to ascending. As Stargate stories go it's pretty plausible actually.

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Or how about, a SHIP NEVER DESIGNED TO BE INHABITED FOR 100,000 + years has had its life support system on THE ENTIRE TIME, THUS USING UP ALL LIFE SUPPORT MATERIALS......fail.

The ship was designed to be inhabited. The Ancients just never got around to it.

Additionally it wouldn't matter if the life support was on or not; with no living creatures inside there's no carbon dioxide production so the system doesn't need to do anything anyway. The reason the scrubbers are dead is because they're just really old, and apparantly whatever active compound the Ancients used in their life support systems doesn't last millions of years, which isn't particulary surprising.

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OR the whole, we have a hull breach and the ONLY EMERGENCY DOOR wont shut, because emergency protocal forces it open for safety....what!?  Exposing the ship and crew to a vacuum is the SAFETY PROCEDURE?!  Oh, and to fix the "safety procedure", someone has to go past the door and DIE to SHUT THE DOOR?!  WTF?  AND YOUR TELLING ME THE SMARTEST RACE IN THE UNIVERSE BUILT THIS SHIP?  Are you telling me there wasnt a SINGLE OTHER FRIKKEN BULKHEAD BETWEEN THE OUTER HULL AND THE ENTIRE CORE OF THE G I A N T SHIP TO SEAL OFF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Apparantly you didn't actually understand this bit, allow me to explain:

A shuttle was docked with the Destiny. The shuttle had been damaged. It's shields were trying to hold the air in, but it was leaking. The door to the shuttle bay was jammed open (nothing to do with failsafes, it was just broke, remember the failsafes automatically lock the doors when a hull breach is involved), the Shuttle door however, could close, but because it was the door for the Shuttle rather than the base door, it could only be closed from inside the Shuttle (again, makes sense. Know of many space shuttles where the cargo bay doors can be opened from the outside?)

As for the other bulkheads thing, possibly. It depends entirely on the design of the ship; it's possible that sealing off the multiple other bulkheads required to seal off that leak from the rest of the ship would have required sealing off important passageways; the ship is pretty mazey (typical ancient design) and only has doors at important locations, so it's entirely possible that it would not have been feasible to seal the ship off via alternate bulkheads.


All in all, as Stargate stories go this one so far is actually perfectly justifiable and reasonably logical, unlike the gigantic ass-pull that was the Ori for example.

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Re: ST-U (Stargate Universe)...reveiw.
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 02:59:45 am »

Lou Diamond Phillips?

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Never have followed Stargate, now I feel like I'm missing out on something.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2009, 03:09:34 am »

Stargate seems to have a pretty polarising effect; you either love it or hate it, i've never met anyone who was just like "Meh."

I reccomend you start with the first movie and watch at least some of the SG1 series though, because otherwise you will not know what the fuck is going on.

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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2009, 03:30:45 am »

I think I should. The only experience I have with Stargate is the Game Boy game. Yes, you heard me. There was a Game Boy Stargate game and it made no sense. Though I was seven at the time.

So I know it has Egyptian elements, thanks to that, but I don't know much else.
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2009, 04:04:01 am »

Stargate seems to have a pretty polarising effect; you either love it or hate it, i've never met anyone who was just like "Meh."

Yes you have!  Well, online anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2009, 04:10:40 am »

I think I should. The only experience I have with Stargate is the Game Boy game. Yes, you heard me. There was a Game Boy Stargate game and it made no sense. Though I was seven at the time.

So I know it has Egyptian elements, thanks to that, but I don't know much else.

Yeah... Watch the movie :P

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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 04:44:02 am »

It might be a good idea to watch the show first so you like that more.  There's more of it after all.  If you watch the movie first you might get weirded out by the changes.

Also, ST-U nub!  Bwahaha!
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 06:51:37 am »

I think I should. The only experience I have with Stargate is the Game Boy game. Yes, you heard me. There was a Game Boy Stargate game and it made no sense. Though I was seven at the time.

So I know it has Egyptian elements, thanks to that, but I don't know much else.

Yeah... Watch the movie :P
And when you finish watching the original movie, watch these: http://www.hulu.com/search?query=Stargate+SG-1
All of them. Its only about 115 hours of episodes, so it should only take you about a week to get through em all.  ;D
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