Now we move on to the Nuke matter.
Let us. I will happily deal with your questions and accusations.
Voting for a lurker is easy, and not that necessary when the person truly hasn't posted, since we can Prod them instead.
True. Nevertheless. My vote for MrPerson was based on instinct which stems from the days when mods wouldn't prod people. I was not attempting to start an easy bandwagon, but to give MrPerson an incentive to post. You should consider it from the pre-karma system point of view.
Then you throw a 'soft attack' on Nihilist with plenty of wish wash.
I fail to see how a 'soft attack' is bad. We can hardly expect the scum to conform to every scumtell in the book, or even any scumtells. We could wait for people to slip up by themselves and say 'Oh also I am scum whoops I didn't mean that'. Or we could wait for power roles to solve the game for us.
But both would be flawed. Small things, things that could easily mean nothing, must be considered to. Gut feeling is a tool that must be employed, not to lynch people, but to raise questions against people. And when there are no other leads, those that your instinct tells you are scum should be the first to go. Naturally, once more solid evidence is provided, your instinct should be as good as ignored, for it is so often wrong. But it is not more often wrong than right.
"He's not acting scummy, Once again. We cannot expect the scum to voluntarily enact scum tells. No one is acting particularly scummy, in my opinion.
but he's not acting normal, Indeed. He is acting nervously, not thinking things through completely, not making the right connections, perhaps because he can't, being scum.
but we always not act normal in mafia,
but not as well as we could."
We are always acting in mafia. Yes. I feel you are deliberately misinterpreting me here- You must admit we always act in mafia. And you must also admit that one is more commonly town than scum. And you must surely agree that it is easier to act as town (as in, town acting like a townie) than as mafia (acting like a townie) anyway, even without the added practice we get at acting as townies.
To repeat my point;
-Apostolic Nihilist is behaving oddly, as if he is acting
-However, when playing mafia, one is always acting.
-Yes, but AN is acting worse than is normal. Scum act worse than townies. Therefore, 'bad acting' is scummy.
It is, as you said, a pretty weak accusation. However, as I said, a weak accusation is better than sitting around doing nothing.
Then you say he's suitable for lynching for that.. then forget to actually vote for him.
-I said (and once again, I feel you are deliberately misinterpreting me), that, in the absence of better targets, he is suitable for lynching. Yes. Surely you must agree that, given one person who is
slightly more scummy than everyone else, it is better to lynch the slightly more scummy person, rather than at random or, heaven forbid, not at all?
-I did vote for him, before (How did you not realise this?). I then switched votes to MrPerson to get him to stop lurking. At that point I considered MrPerson a better target than AN. Once again, you must agree, that given a slightly scummy person, and someone scummier still, it is best to vote for the scummiest?
Easy killer- Now hold up. Lynching is never easy. I have not bandwagonned blindly, you will notice. I have not appealed to emotion, or done any other scummy tricks to make people bandwagon. I have merely stated my opinion, and my vote to go with it. If you refer to my org vote, well, did that go well? Could it possibly be expected to go well in the hands of anyone but webadict? No. It could not. And I know this. Besides, I have explained, it was random behaviour intended to raise discussion.
+ passive aggressiveness I fail to see what is wrong with this. Extrapolate, please.
+ WIFOM creation Um. When? Extrapolate, please.
+ suggestion without follow through See above; weak attack is better than no attack at all.
= Ugly Mafiascum.
I'd vote for you, but I'm already voting for you so instead I'll just hope you get lynched.
Well I hope I have answered your major issues. Please inform me of any issues with this or any other items that you feel I have not dealt with and I will explain them. I can, because I am town.
Well, you're quite right. I'm acting in a way unfamiliar because my usual town strategies (I don't even think I have a usual town strategy. I've only played a few games) don't work well under the 'hammer' rules. I'm not generally an aggressive person. As town, I have to be aggressive, so I'm mostly forcing myself to say and do things I don't really think, which can lead to this strange discontinuity between my posts. It's quite disconcerting, looking back.
Thank you for that. Of course, admitting the existence of the problem does not justify it. It does help me, however.
See, see, see, he admits it. He recognises the necessity of acting and admits that his acting here is of a lower quality. Just a question (to everyone), but do you think that the people who continued voting ExKirby after he 'revealed' that he was the jester are suspicious?
No. They have justified themselves. I think they were wrong in doing so, but not exceedingly scummy. After all, the scum does not want to lynch the jester either.
Web: a prod or a replace on Nuke.
it's hard to drive a discussion when your targets go awol.
Others are less active than me. I apologise for my awolitude, but if you cannot find someone else to question, you are suffering from
Tunnelvision!
That's his second prod this game... 
May I point out that this was 9 replies after my last reply? I am not questioning the mods decision, but, for example, org posted before my previous, and after this post. Did he get prodded?
On that note,
org is active lurking, the very definition. Active enough to avoid prodding (though less active than me :/), but his posts are contentless. Here are his last two posts, by the way:
Apost has indeed been suspicious, but I'd also like to ask where Org is. Why do you think Pandar was NK'd? What do you think about Exkirby's lynch?
Wait. What. How does that make sense? Oh, maybe you mean why, as in why would scum kill them.... Maybe because he is good in mafias most of the time.
I think he may just be a noob, though he has been in a few mafias. Needs to stick his head down and try not to do scummy looking stuff.
Ok so he answered the questions. A purely reply post. Nothing wrong with them, but a little questioning post later on might be good.
That's his second prod this game...
-Karma :I
Yeah, Mass prod.
However, here is his next post!
Zero content.
Indeed, :I
[Note: My vote on org is to provide motivation for him to be more active. I am not attempting to shift attention to him.]
Evidence of lurking spotted.
Keeping silent until 2 attacks fall on him then a 11 minute response time.
Ah, right, I misunderstood this. Sorry. I posted 11 minutes after leafsnail because partly coincidence, partly leafsnails post brought colour mafia up on the main FG&R page under the mafia thingy, reminding me to post. The fact that he voted for me was irrelevant (although you only have my word for it)
Since you're replying to me regularly, you havn't been spending the last 30 minutes writing that post as you want to pretend you are.
(See post below)
Instead, you've been prodded before and, though you are a regular in other games, avoided this one.
This one is pretty boring. Not an excuse, but a reason, at least. You want a carefully kept secret of mine? I lurk less as scum. I find it more exciting, thus, I post more.
I alone aim at you and you ignore me. A second places their vote, thus starting a bandwagon and in 11 minutes you post.
I did not ignore you. I responded to you. And as I said, that leafsnail voted for me was irrelevant.
You say you'll post directly but instead you are Refreshing in order to read my post and, thus, respond to THAT in 9 minutes.
(See post below)
You were lurking and hoping my words would go unnoticed. Now you're scared enough to throw quick defenses rather than actively hunting or even commenting over today's events.
I am sorry that you did not consider my previous responses adequate. Do tell if I have missed anything in this, certainly not quick, defence
You solidify the noose around your scummy neck with every minute.
I am not scum.
That explains why a town would do what you do.
But I do not believe that is why YOU are doing it. I also believe you had a darker motive than just being tidy with your posts.
*shrug* If you are so convinced I am scum, you are treading a dangerous road. Hopefully I have cleared up the issue now. If not, explain why, and I will explain my actions as best as possible.
I am voting
Org, in case you missed it.
My reasons for lurking (not excuses):
1)This game is boring
2)I am european. I have a sporadic wireless internet connection, and was not available at all last night (europe time). When I last left, I had not been prodded, and there had not been many replies since my last post, so I didn't feel I was lurking.
My apologies.
Also my apologies for my huge wall of text.
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