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[Cthulhu]

Each class has class skills that are related to the job.  Wizards have stuff like Spellcraft, Concentration, Knowledge, and the like.  Cross-class skills costs two skill points to get one rank, and you can only have like half as many, rounded up.

Ranks, that is.


Example:

I have a wizard.  He has however many skill points.  Spellcraft is a class skill, so I can put four points in spellcraft at level 1, giving me four ranks.  Open Lock, however, is not a class skill for wizards.  I can only get two ranks in open lock, and it costs four skill points to get those two ranks.  Of course, if I'm getting open lock on a wizard, I'm doing it wrong.

[JoshuaFH]

Then how come it lets me have the cross-class skills with the normal exchange rate? I.e. it lets me have 4 ranks in a cross-class skill.

[Enzo]

I get ninja'd every time in this damn topic.

The char builder says checking the box changes a skill from cross-class to class, I have no idea why that option's available since it's not allowed. That might be why. So ignore the check boxes.

"Cross class" skills are skills that your chosen class wouldn't normally be proficient in. You have to spend 2 skill points to get a one rank (the effective bonus) in a cross class skill, whereas class skills are a 1:1 ratio. The maximum number of ranks you can get for a cross-class skill is also half that of a class skill. But cthulhu beat me to that part >_>

Mind if I redo my character sheet? After reading up a little, I'd like to change things.

Yeah that's fine. Nothing's set in stone yet. If you're going for social skills and magic, you could always be a Sorcerer. They cast spells using sexy power.

[JoshuaFH]

SEXY POWER!

[Neruz]

Fun Fact #1: A Rogue with Use Magic Device and some Wands of Cure Light Wounds makes a better healer than a Cleric can ever hope to be. Clerics are the ultimate buffers\melee warriors and at around level ~6 - 10ish they become the ultimate everything and are quite capable of replacing the entire party.

Fun Fact #2: The healing domain sucks balls. You don't have enough Cleric spells to make preparing healing spells worthwhile at anything except low levels, additionally monsters will do far more damage in 1 round than you can heal in 1 round, don't bother healing people in combat except to stabilise them; you're better off killing the monsters and healing outside of combat with Fun Fact #3

Fun Fact #3: Wands of Cure Light Wounds are your friend. They're very cheap and come with 50 charges of 1d8+1 healing (you can increase the + for more golds, but it's not worth it, you're better off buying another wand). Cure Light wands are basically health batteries that you burn up outside of combat to keep everyone on their toes so as to avoid the inevitable "Monster critted the Fighter and now i'm out of healing spells so it's time to call it a day" scenario that you will otherwise run into.



Although this looks like a pretty newby game, so it's probably not worth bothering with optimisation, just hope that A: Your DM knows what he's doing, and B: You don't get into high levels.

[Neruz]

The char builder says checking the box changes a skill from cross-class to class, I have no idea why that option's available since it's not allowed. That might be why. So ignore the check boxes.

You can get feats and class features that change class skills. A Cleric with the Knowledge domain for example gets all the Knowledge skills added as class skills.

[Neruz]

Hmm, i see we have a rediculously huge player list. While i don't have the time to run a full on campaign (even a prepublished one) for 2 - 3 weeks yet, i can run a weekly dungeon crawl if anyone would like.

[Akigagak]

FIRST IN TO THIS.

[JoshuaFH]

Is there any limit as to my equipment?

[Neruz]

Check the first page. kinseti put his rules thar.

[userpay]

Okay I've copied over my character to the mythweavers site and made a few chances to skills and added the stuff I bought, feel free to check to make sure I did it right.

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http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=157617

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*Enson*

Male Dwarf Fighter 1
Neutral Good
Representing userpay

Strength    17   (+3)
Dexterity    16   (+3)
Constitution    14   (+2)
Intelligence    15   (+2)
Wisdom    11   (+0)
Charisma    11   (+0)

   
Size:    Medium
Height:    4' 2"
Weight:    200 lb
Skin:    Tan
Eyes:    Dark Brown
Hair:    Black; Curly; Thick Beard / Hirsute

Total Hit Points: 12

Speed: 20 feet

Armor Class: 13 = 10 +3 [dexterity]

      Touch AC: 13
      Flat-footed: 10

Initiative modifier:   +3   = +3 [dexterity]
Fortitude save:   +4   = 2 [base] +2 [constitution]
Reflex save:   +5   = 0 [base] +3 [dexterity] +2 [lightning reflexes]
Will save:   +0   = 0 [base]
Attack (handheld):   +4   = 1 [base] +3 [strength]
Attack (unarmed):   +4   = 1 [base] +3 [strength]
Attack (missile):   +4   = 1 [base] +3 [dexterity]
Grapple check:   +4   = 1 [base] +3 [strength]

Light load:
Medium load:
Heavy load:
Lift over head:
Lift off ground:
Push or drag:
   86 lb. or less
87-173 lb.
174-260 lb.
260 lb.
520 lb.
1300 lb.

Languages:   Common Dwarven Goblin Orc

Hand Axe [1d6, crit x3, crit x2., 3 lb., light, slashing]

Feats:

      Lightning Reflexes   
      Two-Weapon Fighting   

Traits:

/Skill Name/

   
/Key
Ability/

   
/Skill
Modifier/

   
/Ability
Modifier/

   
/Ranks/

   
/Misc.
Modifier/

Appraise    Int    2 =    
+2

      
Balance    Dex*    3 =    
+3

      
Bluff    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Climb    Str^*    3 =    
+3

      
Concentration    Con    2 =    
+2

      
Craft_1    Int    2 =    
+2

      
Craft_2    Int    2 =    
+2

      
Craft_3    Int    2 =    
+2

      
Diplomacy    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Disguise    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Escape Artist    Dex^*    3 =    
+3

      
Forgery    Int    2 =    
+2

      
Gather Information    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Handle Animal    Cha    3 =    
+0

   +3    
Heal    Wis    0 =    
+0

      
Hide    Dex^*    3 =    
+3

      
Intimidate    Cha    4 =    
+0

   +4    
Jump    Str^*    -1 =    
+3

   +2    -6 [speed 20]
Knowledge (dungeoneering)    Int    5 =    
+2

   +3    
Listen    Wis    0 =    
+0

      
Move Silently    Dex^*    3 =    
+3

      
Perform_1    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Perform_2    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Perform_3    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Perform_4    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Perform_5    Cha    0 =    
+0

      
Ride    Dex    5 =    
+3

   +2    
Search    Int    2 =    
+2

      
Sense Motive    Wis    0 =    
+0

      
Spot    Wis    0 =    
+0

      
Survival    Wis    0 =    
+0

      
Swim    Str^**    5 =    
+3

   +2    
Use Rope    Dex    3 =    
+3

      

* = check penalty for wearing armor

Dwarf:

    * +2 constitution / -2 charisma (already included)

    * Can move 20 feet even if in heavy armor

    * Darkvision (see 60 feet in pitch-dark)

    * Stonecunning (+2 on searching stone, intuit depth)

    * +4 to avoid being bullrushed while standing on ground

    * +2 racial bonus on saves vs. poison

    * +2 racial bonus on saves vs. spells / spell-like abilities

    * +1 racial bonus to hit orcs and goblinoids

    * +4 dodge bonus on AC against giants

    * +4 stability bonus to avoid being tripped/bull rushed standing on
      ground

    * +2 racial bonus on appraise checks if stone/metal

Fighter:

    * Bonus Feats (already included)

   /Class/    /HP rolled/    
Level 1:    Fighter    10    

   

Enson's Equipment:

      3 lb
      _____
      3 lb   Weapons / Armor / Shield (from above)

      Total

More about Enson:

[Akigagak]

So many tanks.

[Neruz]

Tanky Fighters are the easiest class to play (and are just as easy to screw up) so most new players automatically gravitate to them.

You'll be fine so long as the campaign doesn't go further than ~6 - 8th level.

[Jack_Bread]

Hmm, i see we have a rediculously huge player list. While i don't have the time to run a full on campaign (even a prepublished one) for 2 - 3 weeks yet, i can run a weekly dungeon crawl if anyone would like.

SECOND

[Akigagak]

With the player list as long as it is, that's quite likely.
I'll roll up a halfling archery ranger, that should give some sort of balance.