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Total Members Voted: 18

[Gorjo MacGrymm]

Party death, party death, party death....oh wait, was i saying that out loud?

[Akigagak]

I'll join you. Party death, party death, party death, party death...

[CJ1145]

Hmm. Since I'm going for a Necromancer, having all those corpses would give me a nice squad of bodyguards...

Party death, party death, party death, party death...

[userpay]

I'll add you to the list Gorjo. One Total Party Kill and you'd be in the game You never know.

So...the vote is overwhelmingly not-DF. Fair enough. Standard core-rules it is! I don't really know anything about the Eberon setting, so I would probably butcher the setting if I tried to do that. What kind of "stuff" did you want to be able to use? I'm worried about adding stuff I'm not familiar with since I'm already rusty on the stuff I do know.

I'll start a topic in Forum Games for Character sheets and stuff later on tonight, even though it'll probably be a few days before I'm ready for the first session. Then this topic can be about finding a DM for another game since there's apparently so much damn interest.

Well I was thinking warforge at the very least, I guess we can go for a normal setting and add in a few things. Now I don't know what the specific rules would be from the rule books but their basiclly machines, heres the excerpt from the java character builder thing for when I made one that pertains to warforge specifically

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Warforged (see Dragon 264 and Eberron for feats, paths, etc.)

    * +2 Strength, +2 Constitution (already included)
    * +2 Endurance, +2 intimidate (per EPG), +2 on saves vs. ongoing damage
    * Living Construct (see Monster Manual)
    * Unsleeping Watcher -- four hours of inactivity is an extended
      rest, during which the character can keep watch for danger)
    * Warforged Resolve (when bloodied, gain 3 + level/2 temporary hp;
      see Monster Manual)
    * Warforged Mind: +1 on Will defense
    * On death saving throws, take the better of your die roll or 10.
    * May be genderless or assume a male or female personality.

I'm not sure whats in the living construct part but I'm pretty sure not needing to eat is in there.

[Gorjo MacGrymm]

I'll add you to the list Gorjo. One Total Party Kill and you'd be in the game You never know.

So...the vote is overwhelmingly not-DF. Fair enough. Standard core-rules it is! I don't really know anything about the Eberon setting, so I would probably butcher the setting if I tried to do that. What kind of "stuff" did you want to be able to use? I'm worried about adding stuff I'm not familiar with since I'm already rusty on the stuff I do know.

I'll start a topic in Forum Games for Character sheets and stuff later on tonight, even though it'll probably be a few days before I'm ready for the first session. Then this topic can be about finding a DM for another game since there's apparently so much damn interest.

Well I was thinking warforge at the very least, I guess we can go for a normal setting and add in a few things. Now I don't know what the specific rules would be from the rule books but their basiclly machines, heres the excerpt from the java character builder thing for when I made one that pertains to warforge specifically

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Warforged (see Dragon 264 and Eberron for feats, paths, etc.)

    * +2 Strength, +2 Constitution (already included)
    * +2 Endurance, +2 intimidate (per EPG), +2 on saves vs. ongoing damage
    * Living Construct (see Monster Manual)
    * Unsleeping Watcher -- four hours of inactivity is an extended
      rest, during which the character can keep watch for danger)
    * Warforged Resolve (when bloodied, gain 3 + level/2 temporary hp;
      see Monster Manual)
    * Warforged Mind: +1 on Will defense
    * On death saving throws, take the better of your die roll or 10.
    * May be genderless or assume a male or female personality.

I'm not sure whats in the living construct part but I'm pretty sure not needing to eat is in there.

sorry, i always thought the warforges were ridiculasly overpowered for a PC race.

[Enzo]

I'll add you to the list Gorjo. One Total Party Kill and you'd be in the game You never know.

So...the vote is overwhelmingly not-DF. Fair enough. Standard core-rules it is! I don't really know anything about the Eberon setting, so I would probably butcher the setting if I tried to do that. What kind of "stuff" did you want to be able to use? I'm worried about adding stuff I'm not familiar with since I'm already rusty on the stuff I do know.

I'll start a topic in Forum Games for Character sheets and stuff later on tonight, even though it'll probably be a few days before I'm ready for the first session. Then this topic can be about finding a DM for another game since there's apparently so much damn interest.

Well I was thinking warforge at the very least, I guess we can go for a normal setting and add in a few things. Now I don't know what the specific rules would be from the rule books but their basiclly machines, heres the excerpt from the java character builder thing for when I made one that pertains to warforge specifically

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Warforged (see Dragon 264 and Eberron for feats, paths, etc.)

    * +2 Strength, +2 Constitution (already included)
    * +2 Endurance, +2 intimidate (per EPG), +2 on saves vs. ongoing damage
    * Living Construct (see Monster Manual)
    * Unsleeping Watcher -- four hours of inactivity is an extended
      rest, during which the character can keep watch for danger)
    * Warforged Resolve (when bloodied, gain 3 + level/2 temporary hp;
      see Monster Manual)
    * Warforged Mind: +1 on Will defense
    * On death saving throws, take the better of your die roll or 10.
    * May be genderless or assume a male or female personality.

I'm not sure whats in the living construct part but I'm pretty sure not needing to eat is in there.

sorry, i always thought the warforges were ridiculasly overpowered for a PC race.

Yeah, that brings to light my other hesitation with adding extra material - some of it is completely unbalanced. That race doesn't have a single drawback, it's just quite literally a killing machine.

[Jack_Bread]

That java chargen has way to many sourcebooks included with it. :\

Also, I'm changing my race/class to half-elf ranger.

[userpay]

I'll add you to the list Gorjo. One Total Party Kill and you'd be in the game You never know.

So...the vote is overwhelmingly not-DF. Fair enough. Standard core-rules it is! I don't really know anything about the Eberon setting, so I would probably butcher the setting if I tried to do that. What kind of "stuff" did you want to be able to use? I'm worried about adding stuff I'm not familiar with since I'm already rusty on the stuff I do know.

I'll start a topic in Forum Games for Character sheets and stuff later on tonight, even though it'll probably be a few days before I'm ready for the first session. Then this topic can be about finding a DM for another game since there's apparently so much damn interest.

Well I was thinking warforge at the very least, I guess we can go for a normal setting and add in a few things. Now I don't know what the specific rules would be from the rule books but their basiclly machines, heres the excerpt from the java character builder thing for when I made one that pertains to warforge specifically

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Warforged (see Dragon 264 and Eberron for feats, paths, etc.)

    * +2 Strength, +2 Constitution (already included)
    * +2 Endurance, +2 intimidate (per EPG), +2 on saves vs. ongoing damage
    * Living Construct (see Monster Manual)
    * Unsleeping Watcher -- four hours of inactivity is an extended
      rest, during which the character can keep watch for danger)
    * Warforged Resolve (when bloodied, gain 3 + level/2 temporary hp;
      see Monster Manual)
    * Warforged Mind: +1 on Will defense
    * On death saving throws, take the better of your die roll or 10.
    * May be genderless or assume a male or female personality.

I'm not sure whats in the living construct part but I'm pretty sure not needing to eat is in there.

sorry, i always thought the warforges were ridiculasly overpowered for a PC race.

Yeah, that brings to light my other hesitation with adding extra material - some of it is completely unbalanced. That race doesn't have a single drawback, it's just quite literally a killing machine.

Okay thats fine, I was just running it past ye guys. Isn't one big drawback is the inability to get healed normally though? You'd have to have repair or a special spell for mechanical things to fix warforge.
edit: hell I just remembered they can't get healed at all by natural means, its gotta be by magic or at least it is in the novels.
edit2: I just fired up the character creation from dnd insider and its quite nice. Warforge are in there and your right, compared to other races its relativly unbalanced. It doesn't say anything about how they get health back though I assume it has to do with living construct. Though ye also have to consider what kind of race it is, their quite literally a human machine. Though I'm surprised they allow them to equip armor, in DDO they can't equip armor.
edit3: Wait I did a bit more digging in the program and I don't see any drawback for the races that should have them, at least when compare to DDO.
I see whats wrong, its all using the 4th edition which apparently gets rid of most of the negative stats for most races. I'll pull the stats for warforge from DDO and you guys can decide if their okay. Now I can see why most people don't like the 4th edition, fewer consequences for your choices.

[userpay]

Okay list of stuff from DDO about warforge, also not included is that they can't seem to wear most armor and the only stuff they can wear seem to be docents which seem to be like armor enchantments.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

    * +2 Constitution, -2 Wisdom, -2 Charisma: Warforged are resilient and powerful, but their difficulty in relating to other creatures makes them seem aloof or even hostile.
    * Immune to poison, sleep effects, paralysis, disease, nausea, fatigue, exhaustion: As living constructs, warforged have a natural immunity to the sickened condition.
    * Stabilized by Repair skill, Repair Damage Spells regenerate, Positive energy healing spells (such as Cure spells) half as effective: Damage dealt to a warforged can be healed by Repair Damage spells and warforged are stabilized by the Repair skill, however, Cure and Heal spells and potions only provide half their normal effect.
    * +2 armor bonus and 5% chance arcane spell failure: The Composite Plating used to build a warforged takes the place of armor or robes and interferes slightly with spell casting.
    * Light Fortification: There is a 25% chance that when a critical hit or sneak attack is scored, it is negated and damage is rolled normally.

[Enzo]

Alright, I started a topic for this in Forum games. I only have a second to post right now, but if your character looks like this in a traditional fantasy setting almost every single NPC will react with immediate hostility or fear, which would kind of ruin it for the rest of the party. Also, once I start letting in supplements people will start badgering me to include the ones they want, and it will never end. So I'm still leaning towards no.

[Neruz]

Um, what version are you playing? Cause some of you seem to be digging up the 4e Warforged stats, and some of you seem to be digging up the 3.5 Warforged stats, and the two versions are very different beasties.

[userpay]

Um, what version are you playing? Cause some of you seem to be digging up the 4e Warforged stats, and some of you seem to be digging up the 3.5 Warforged stats, and the two versions are very different beasties.

Ya I was initally looking at the 4th edition without relizing it so I pulled stats from DDO which I assume is 3.5 based to see if it were okay but going by the new thread specifically for the game that was started warforge are still out.

[Neruz]

DDO is actually another beast again, it's effectively 3.5.5, trying to be balanced (something which 3.5 quite simply isn't) and also having to make concessions for the real-time aspect of the game.

Anyone claiming Warforged are overpowered by the way is being stupid. As has been decisively proven, Humans are by far the most overpowered race due to having no weaknesses and an extra Feat.


If you want 3.5 stats, The D20 SRD is your one-stop-shop for core rules, as well as the three most common supplimentary rules; Unearthed Arcana, Epic and Psionics.

[Rooster]

I saw this thread just now. I swear!

And yeah. I AM willing to DM if NO ONE ELSE is.
Because last time I was a player was 10 years ago or something like that.
So yeah we can do it one way or the other:
I DM a game and Kinseti DM's one
OR Kinseti is the DM and I'm a player (finally! I'd rather go with this)

How are we going to play? Gametable? I don't know if it will work for me since I'm in europe and it'd be hard to make a good schedule outside of weekends. Verbal communication? I don't have a mic. MSN? I unfortunately can't use it for some reason, but I'm fine with any other chats.
So we definitely have to solve the problem of how are we going to play.

[Leafsnail]

Ok, so I tried using the Character Builder, and I'll be uploading stats and stuff onto the other thread.  I tried to stick entirely to core stuff (otherwise I would've chosen Doppelganger as my race, heh) but tell me if I've done anything wrong and I'll change it.