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PsychoBuck

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The meaning of size
« on: September 30, 2009, 08:46:08 pm »

I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I have been thinking about the size comparisons and wonder how they are defined. I was formerly thinking each point of size increases mass at around double. Is there a scale somewhere on this. I haven't found any thread on this before so I decided to create one.
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 10:04:02 pm »

That's actually a thing to think about. If humans are 7, and cats are 3. The average cat is about 12 pounds or so, and the average human is about 180 pounds. So what can we work from that? I'm an idiot so I'll just leave it to the smart people.
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 10:05:43 pm »

 One can shift around values for many creatures, this being a middle-age magical world of fantasy.

 Still, nice to know how much larger a Bronze colossus is. I think somebody did do the calculations based around human and other creature sizes, but like the tile sizes is a rather abstract number.
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 10:07:20 pm »

According to how the game works, every step up in size makes creatures (or their corpses anyway) weight another 50 DFpounds.  Realistically, it doesn't mean much of anything, at least until and unless Toady cracks open the code for all to see.
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 11:06:15 pm »

OK, I did some research and came up with this.
Is this a decent scale?

Size : Weight- Can be more or less depending on the frame of the creature.
1 : 1 lb or less
2 : 1-9 lb
3 : 9-16 lb
4 : 16-40 lb
5 : 40-70 lb
6 : 70-110 lb
7 : 110-300 lb
8 : 300-800 lb
9 : 800-1200 lb
10 : 1200-1600 lb
11 : 1600-2000 lb
12 : 2000-4000 lb
13 : 4000-6000 lb
14 : 6000-8000 lb
15 : 8000-10k lb
16 : 8-15k lb
17 : 15-30k lb
18 : 30-45k lb
19 : 45-60k lb
20 : 60-100k lb
« Last Edit: September 30, 2009, 11:08:38 pm by Undeadstag »
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 11:10:41 pm »

 Now how would stout and skinny effect these numbers? Of course, such tags are subjective as they only apply to the fantasy races.
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 11:19:30 pm »

Stout- Gain 15 % I am thinking a dwarf
Skinny or narrow- Add 15% A goblin
A creature can weight more or less than the speculated weight if unusually bloated or skinny.
This is just speculation though.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2009, 11:29:40 pm by Undeadstag »
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 09:33:31 am »

Each level in size seems to represent an increase in roughly 185 percent from the previous size.
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2009, 11:04:12 am »

Specifically Stout and Skinny represent thickness. Though indeed a Elf is the same size as a human they are also much thinner and thus no human could wear their clothing.

Though a Goblin and a Dwarf are the same size a Dwarf is much thicker.

Also size 20 is 20 by 40 in size
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 12:50:51 pm »

Currently there's only one meaning of size: attack/block possibilities.

Attack formula: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=37546.0
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2009, 01:12:04 pm »

Well size later is supposed to represent size.

Though yes technically your right Deon Size only confers damage, block, and likely strength.
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2009, 03:26:49 pm »

I took some average sizes for creatures and placed them in exel.



The following graph was derived from these:



I want to use the formula here to make a table with the minimum and maximum size of an animal, but I do not understand the 'e' part in the formula and how to put this in exel. (Is this a natural logaritmic? (ln?), if so, how do I put this in an exel formula?)
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2009, 03:28:24 pm »

Why are you using Kilograms?

You are aware that a Cow alone could break your chart?

Anyhow a 20 is a Whale Shark

Ironmen are also size 7
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2009, 03:33:01 pm »

Why are you using Kilograms?

You are aware that a Cow alone could break your chart?

Anyhow a 20 is a Whale Shark

Ironmen are also size 7
(Very) Good point.


EDIT: Still, does anyone know what the heck the 'e' is inside of the exel formula?

EDIT2: I stated kilograms due to the first poster using mass as a comparisation to size :)
Does anyone know how many cubic metres a human is? ^^ or a cow?
With about 3-5 points a new graph will be made with ease!
« Last Edit: October 01, 2009, 03:35:55 pm by Angellus »
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Re: The meaning of size
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2009, 03:42:47 pm »

I assume e here is the mathematical constant e.

You can either figure out what Excel uses to represent that, or just plug it into a cell to however many decimal places you want to and just reference the cell.
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