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Author Topic: ARE YOU TRULY LIBERAL?  (Read 10771 times)

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Re: ARE YOU TRULY LIBERAL?
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2009, 11:28:27 am »

hm, somewhere between nelson mandela and dalai lama. more dalai lama, though.

Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69
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« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2009, 11:31:40 am »

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Re: ARE YOU TRULY LIBERAL?
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2009, 11:36:06 am »



Yay for me.
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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2009, 11:40:53 am »

Purpley is "US Libertarian Party".
Red is Sterotypical Stalinist Comrade Squad.
Green is US Democratic.
Blue is US Republican.

I seen nobody posted a Blue result yet.
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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2009, 11:56:18 am »

Really?  Damn, looks like I got lots of the questions wrong then.  Perhaps it's the LCS views of heavy violence and stuff...
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Re: ARE YOU TRULY LIBERAL?
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2009, 12:35:10 pm »

it was a bit strange like test,
it gave me:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97

however i always tougth i am more anarchist and not at all communist :s
i think there migth also be some problems with the results, cause i am sure i misunderstude some questions ... (for example on the last page there was a statement about "the pornographie that should be legal for adults if made by adults who agree to make it" (or like) ... but it IS legal for adults ??? so i don't see what it is talkin' about ...)
anyway it is not accurate test ... there is even no: "no opignon" choices ...
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Re: ARE YOU TRULY LIBERAL?
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2009, 12:51:22 pm »

OKCupid's political test is significantly better...

E. Albright

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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2009, 01:31:19 pm »

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The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs.
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Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory.

take as given government schools...

The former certainly does not. Consider post-secondary education: should colleges try to produce "well-rounded" graduates by requiring civics, culture, science, and/or language courses (i.e., standard "liberal artsy" general ed stuff), or should they teach nothing but courses focused with laser-like precision on the subject of the students' degrees? This question has nothing to do with the funding model of the school, and everything to do with the perceived purpose of education.

Taken as worded, the second one doesn't either: it talks about attending classes, not attending school. But that's something of an odd question, albeit not wholly without merit, and I expect most quiz-takers read it as school attendance.
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Granite26

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« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2009, 01:55:05 pm »

Somewhat true, but unless schools are government funded or involve government funding, how is the purpose of education a political function? (same with the art question...)  When they say schooling, I don't think private standards awarding or the training a company offers or a seminar offered at the local museum, I think the education system, specifically K-12 and government approved colleges.  I'd imagine that implication is true for 99% of the populace.  "The money you give the government to spend on education should be spent..."

The second question has similar connotations.  Forcing students to go to 'school' compulsorily implies that there is an agency with the power of compulsion (I.E. government) that has the power of definition over what is an acceptable school. 

As written, I read the question as 'should children be forced to attend government sanctioned schools', as opposed to home-schooling.  This is a big non-authoritarian talking point because some parents don't want their children to be forced to learn about evolution(coworker was homeschooled because of this), taught outright economic lies(economists are pretty universal about monopoly laws not protecting consumers), or sing the praises of the president(Did you hear about this?).



I guess the point I was trying to make is that a lot of these issues are personal opinions and take it for granted that if I had my way, my personal opinions would be legislated into law.

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« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2009, 02:53:36 pm »

I just took that test, or rather I started, but question 2 is wierd.

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I'd always support my country, whether it was right or wrong.

What does Support mean here?

I will always go "yay denmark"

OR:

I will try and make my country better.

because if optionA, then I strongly disagree, but if optionB, then I strongly agree.


"You cannot be moral without being religious."'

STOP WITH THE BLODDY NOT NOT!

just write "In order to be moral, you must be religious"

It's less confusing worded statement that way.


Anyways, I'm a Gandhi clone.

and the other quiz, the one linked by Servant Corps, gave exactly the same answer.


Edit: wrote "just" instead of "you", don't know why.
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« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2009, 02:57:29 pm »

Well, the double negative is justified there, I feel.  "You can be moral and religious" is a different statement, as is "All religious people are moral".
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« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2009, 03:10:33 pm »

Well, the double negative is justified there, I feel.  "You can be moral and religious" is a different statement, as is "All religious people are moral".

I did not write "can", but "must"

In order to be moral, you must be religious

Thats how the question was worded, just with two "not" in there.

"You cannot be moral without being religious"
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That [Magma] is a bit deep down there, don't you think?
You really aren't thinking like a dwarf.

If you think it is down too far, you move it up until it reaches an acceptable elevation.

E. Albright

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« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2009, 03:48:45 pm »

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I'd always support my country, whether it was right or wrong.

What does Support mean here? [I will always go "yay denmark" OR: I will try and make my country better.]

because if optionA, then I strongly disagree, but if optionB, then I strongly agree.

It's closer to option A. It refers, I would say, to unreserved nationalism, and in principle would mean that you would not openly express disagreement with anything your nation did (this sort of attitude is usually limited to questions of war and the like), and to never suggest that other nations that disagree with it could possibly have been right to do so. But that's just in principle; in practice, it's almost always limited to going "Yay Denmark!" no matter what.

That's the baggage normally packed into the phrase "right or wrong" in this context. It's... kinda icky, yeah.
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« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2009, 09:20:14 pm »

I thought it was more "patriotism" than nationalism.  Basically, I took it to mean, "How fucked up can my goverment get before I move to Canada/take up arms/hide in the woods?"

Needless to say, I either answered disagree or strongly disagree.  But the CIA already knew that...

Also, I disagree with the assessment that the Democratic party is the Green Grid.  I'd put them somewhere in the low Red myself, with always wanting to "Control" things.

Example Issue and Democratic Response:
Issue: Company doesn't hire enough minorities, for any reason.
Democrats: Ok, We'll MAKE you take these minorities!  (That's certain not to make you hate them more...)
Issue: Some people don't have health care.
Democrats: Ok, you now MUST have health insurance, and the Companies MUST pay for it, even if they're quite small.
Issue: Gun Control
Demorcrats: Oh no!  Someone could get hurt!  Let's ban ALL of them, and ensure that only criminals have them!

If the Democrats DON'T come across as Over-Protective Parents, you're not paying attention.

Not that I like those Greedy Bastards in the Republican Party any better...

You know, I'm starting to like the CCS idea more and more, just to balance things out...

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« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2009, 10:25:58 pm »

I always score in the dead center of this test and that apparently makes me more of a left-wing radical libertarian then 75% of the the leaders of the free world and I have to say I think thats a bit inaccurate.
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