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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2009, 06:27:28 pm »

I tend to leave my forts in the background, which is generally very close to me being away, because I always get preoccupied with other things.
Nothing bad ever happens, infact I once left my fort alone for 1-2 seasons on accident, they coped just fine.

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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2009, 08:06:15 am »

My dwarves usually cope fine -- it helps that I like to build big food/booze surpluses early.

This time (thanks to a 1 tile wide access from a tower construction) I go to make coffee and come back to a dozen-murloc attack (modded in zerg-tactics large spawn agressive predatory bastards from the Warcraft universe) on my 'sleeping barracks' while my troop of champions was away for a drink. It ended in 6 casualties for me (100% casualties and 1 trap for them...)

Sigh. Too many bones already...
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2009, 08:18:03 am »

A trap at every entrance for the little threats. A dozen each "Brew Drink (30)", "Collect Sand (30)", "Process Plants (30)" job orders. The knowledge that if anything of any importance whatsoever occurs the game will autopause.
I trust my dwarves completely.

Of course, I still set up a second monitor so I could always watch them even while I WoW or browse the internet. But that's more so I don't miss a moment of their suffering.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2009, 09:05:55 am »

Your dwarves will usually be just fine if you have a developed fortress.  As long as they aren't doing anything more involved than farming, cooking, and brewing, no major catastrophes should happen. 
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2009, 09:53:33 am »

Meh, the unit list includes (and mixes with) the old dwarves. I end up wondering which ones are the immigrants.

Mark the old dwarves either with names or by deactivating hauling for them. The new ones will light up like a Christmas tree because of, respectively, the 'weird' names or the hauling jobs.
While they are still immigrating (still flashing 'X' on them), they're (generally) the only ones without an active job.  Though it would be different if I allowed my current population time to socialise (something I've often thought I should do).

But as I also maintain a spreadsheet of dwarfs, I can run down the (U)nit list and the spreadsheet (maintained in the same order, for the most part, and exceptions handled accordingly) and spot the previously unknown ones.

Though I do like to keep an eye on their incoming wave as I assign in that spreadsheet a reference number (a1..7 for the originals, b1..N for the first immigration wave, etc) for purely anal data recording purposes.  While I might assign the first migrant's date of entry to all that wave's migrants (even though they may take a number of dwarf-days to arrive), this usually means that I can correctly guess in advance whereabouts in the list of the current woodcrafters (frexample) the craftsdwarf will appear once he/she has specialised enough to get the woodcrafter title, compared with the peasant who zooms straight into the non-generalised role.  (Told you I was a bit anal about this. :)

(I suppose I could use Dwarf Manager or a Dwarf Manager-like utuility to do all this sorting and arranging, but...  for whatever reason... I'm not doing. :)
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2009, 10:14:46 am »

The human one went insane due to missing a hand, and was eaten by a dog.

I just burst out in random giggles at reading that.
I now have a mental image of a human liason getting eaten by a dog, while the liason is flipping off some dwarves with his (nonexistant) hand.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2009, 10:25:09 am »

The food and drink have been at stable numbers for years, but alas, I use military dwarves instead of traps to defend my fort. My fifteen champions can easily handle anything the goblins throw at me, but since they're only on duty when they need to be, I can't leave my fortress alone for too long or the goblins will eventually wear down my limited buffer cages and start punching things.

The fortress guard (which has another nine champions in it) would probably take care of the goblins, but there would still be countless wounded dwarves, and my primary water source requires manual reflooding every five years or so.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2009, 12:19:24 pm »

The human one went insane due to missing a hand, and was eaten by a dog.

I just burst out in random giggles at reading that.
I now have a mental image of a human liason getting eaten by a dog, while the liason is flipping off some dwarves with his (nonexistant) hand.

Sure, laugh it up, but that dog caused an international incident and a pair of sieges. Very early sieges.
I ended up just locking the second one out and trying to scrape by on the booze I had.

Still amusing that he went beserk right next to the anti-kobold dog, though.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2009, 02:51:59 pm »

I have a janitor profession with only refuse hauling and cleaning, and I keep about 10 of them. Miasma and dirty halls are never ever a problem. The caretakers with healthcare and burial keep my hospital beds tended. Automated cisterns supply water when it's dangerously close to de-activating my wells. Haulers for non-refuse also keep stockpiles at the ready. I keep each individual dwarf to very simple tasks and they mesh together excellently. I don't mine that much except for megaprojects and those just have to be monitored. I keep lots of fortress guards, gate guards, outside patrols and inside patrols for thiefs and ambushes.
Unless I'm on a megaproject, I could go on perfectly fine if I had no auto-pauses and left my fort all by itself. I've found a great way to time fallows and planting seasons so my barrels never run low, and I always have 2k+ drinks. Work orders are carried out ceaselessly just to increase my wealth. High populations are slow on the computer but at around 100 dwarves I never have a fear of having fun the good ol' fashioned way. Beyond that it's just a luxury with all the hands available. Even parties aren't much of a hassle.

You guys should trust them a little, it makes it easier to concentrate wholly on your controlled-magma-flood device :P
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2009, 03:01:37 pm »

About as far as I can throw them.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2009, 04:51:34 pm »

are you a legindary hammerer?

i trust my dorfs compleatly. with a crapton of manager jobs, repeat orders, sand gather/make glass production chains, auto-unpause, a large stockpile of food/booze, constant farming and unlimited water, plus 5 years of dig designations for my 2 to 4 legindary miners, designating all unneded aminmals for butcher (with a large meat stockpile ready) and my cloth insustry on reapeat gather on my indoor spidersilk farm, i have no problem letting the fort run overnight. at most i have gone 2 years without help before something paused the game (liazons all dead for that game). i also could have sworn there was a script the would autounpause anything. i would like to find that for the latest version.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2009, 04:54:39 pm »

No trust whatsoever, I even get a little antsy when I even tab out to check something.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2009, 07:59:37 pm »

I trust them about as much as I trust myself.

Not very much, really. What can I say? I'm very untrustworthy.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2009, 04:31:06 am »

I stopped trusting my dwarves when, after having me Gulliver do some of the old in-and-out, I returned to find, of all my 60 dwarves, my legendary armorer AND my legendary weaponsmith had been slain. By skeletal hoary marmots.
I pause the game now when I leave.
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Re: How much do you trust your dwarves?
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2009, 08:10:42 am »

I stopped trusting my dwarves when, after having me Gulliver do some of the old in-and-out, I returned to find, of all my 60 dwarves, my legendary armorer AND my legendary weaponsmith had been slain. By skeletal hoary marmots.
I pause the game now when I leave.

Um...
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