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[Leafsnail]

He could equally be, say, a Cult Leader, or something else that doesn't produce a result like that from a telepath.  Actually, cult leader would make more sense, since if an Agent were trying to scan him he would be confused if his race came up Alien rather than Cult.

[Pandarsenic]

He could equally be, say, a Cult Leader, or something else that doesn't produce a result like that from a telepath.  Actually, cult leader would make more sense, since if an Agent were trying to scan him he would be confused if his race came up Alien rather than Cult.

... Leafsnail, Cult Leader shows up as a normal human and his goal is still Kill. Goth is the WORST thing for a Cult Leader to claim.

A Cult Mad Scientist or Warlock are the only Cultists who could possibly have a Survive condition, and even then I think the "Kill" overrides it.

[Mephansteras]

A cultist will never show up with a 'survive' result. They will either show up as 'kill' or 'find', and find only shows up if they use a power role with that goal.

[Leafsnail]

Ah, ok, fair enough.  Forgot Cult Leader got "Kill".  I actually meant a Cultist with a Survive role, but Meph's post would seem to make that impossible.

[forsaken1111]

Well I'd prefer we didn't waste investigative roles on me, but if there is an agent and/or telepath out there who can verify my race and objective tonight, that would put this to rest. Assuming I don't get lynched by Diakron scum-lead bandwagons of course.

[JanusTwoface]

I keep forgetting how quickly this thread moves when it's still new.  Especially when an Alien comes around and decides to basically restart the game.  Craziness.  Right now, I'm mainly waiting to see what Humaan has to say about the roles and to see if he has anything particularly out of the ordinary to report.

Until then, I'm going to FoS Diakron for his mildly odd attack on forsaken.  While forsaken is by no means clean in my eyes (there's nothing to say that he didn't lie to Muchenik), it still seems like an odd attack.  While spending overly much effort to defend yourself is a scum tell (I got hammered by that one a few games ago, not exactly sure which one though), I don't think that forsaken did that.  He either tried a new method for detecting scum (an interesting if not terribly successful one) or is scum and is trying to back up as quickly as possible now.  Either way, we should be focusing on everyone, not just one person.

It's only a FoS though, because while his behavior is somewhat scummy looking, he basically seems to have gotten the opposite reaction that he was expecting and a band wagon has formed on him instead.  Most interesting.  Don't just focus on one or two people!

We'll see how the rest of the day goes before solidifying that into a vote.

[webadict]

Well I'd prefer we didn't waste investigative roles on me, but if there is an agent and/or telepath out there who can verify my race and objective tonight, that would put this to rest. Assuming I don't get lynched by Diakron scum-lead bandwagons of course.

Isn't that just the biggest waste of town resources? It's also very selfish. All you'd really need is a Telepath, since you'd get a Survive result, which can't be Cultist. On the other hand, it's also a waste. You could, say, be a Cultist Mad Scientist with Security Cameras. You'd find out any roles that interact with you, except for Psychic roles.

Don't tell people how to play the game...

[forsaken1111]

Did you even read it before responding? I said I would prefer NOT to waste the investigations. I wasn't telling anyone how to play, or what to do. I don't want people to investigate me because I'm a town goth and it would be a waste of time. I have no secrets though, and if you fellow townies want to verify my story I'm fine with that.

[Humaan]

Everyone has roleclaimed.

I will try to establish a possible list as soon as possible.

[Leafsnail]

A possible list of what?

[JanusTwoface]

Be careful about posting that in the main thread.  The scum already know what their roles are and this will give them the perfect opportunity to select the most powerful targets.  In fact, I would strongly suggest against it for the time being, although passing it along before you die isn't a bad idea.

[Jim Groovester]

NUKE9.13

I implore you to consider my actions again. You claim to have read my posts, yet you still came out with recycled attacks at me that were not based off that wall of text but rather off -barely relevant remarks-, including an argument I had already withdrawn. Please reread the thread from the start of the incident and think, did I ever do anything really scummy? If you truly think I did, do tell what, and I will explain why I did it, because I can, because I am not scum. My rage has subsided over the night and I will endeavour to make my arguments clear, with a minimum of insultry.

If the remarks were barely relevant, why did you make them? I think accusations hold the strongest weight when they are made plainly and simply. If you dig too much for evidence against somebody, you look like scum trying too hard to get a lynch.

However, I did the same thing in Beginner's 1, when I was the Doctor. I tried quite hard to get webadict, then dakarian, then Free Beer lynched, and I scrounged for every shred of tangentially connected evidence I could find. That didn't really work out too well, and it made me look suspicious.

So, for now, I'm willing to consider the possibility that you just went at forsaken1111 a little too hard. Unvote.

Moving on:

FoS Pandarsenic and Mr. Person. Diakron acts scummy every game he gets in, even when he's town, and he's totally helpless when it comes to defending himself. Pandarsenic and Mr. Person earn my suspicion for attacking Diakron and voting for him at their earliest opportunity.

Additionally, Mr. Person voted for Pandarsenic yesterday, because Pandarsenic was purportedly "active lurking". Of course, a common scum strategy is to vote for your partner to distance yourself from him. If Mr. Person's accusation held any water, I think he would have held it a little longer than he did.

And then they both voted for Leafsnail today for reasons I don't entirely understand.

So I'm thinking they are at least one pair of the scum quartet. So I might as well vote for one of them. Mr. Person.

[Diakron]

okay guys i'm typing with one hand so this will be copy and pasted in all mafia games i'm in:

I have first degree burns over 3/4 of my left hand after getting frying oil splashed on it. i cannot type well with one hand so i wont be doing much talking in my post. i will continue to play but wanted to get this out in the open.

[forsaken1111]

okay guys i'm typing with one hand so this will be copy and pasted in all mafia games i'm in:

I have first degree burns over 3/4 of my left hand after getting frying oil splashed on it. i cannot type well with one hand so i wont be doing much talking in my post. i will continue to play but wanted to get this out in the open.

Sorry to hear that man, I hope you got adequate medical care for that. Burns are no joke.

[Pandarsenic]

okay guys i'm typing with one hand so this will be copy and pasted in all mafia games i'm in:

I have first degree burns over 3/4 of my left hand after getting frying oil splashed on it. i cannot type well with one hand so i wont be doing much talking in my post. i will continue to play but wanted to get this out in the open.

Sorry to hear that man, I hope you got adequate medical care for that. Burns are no joke.

Seconded. Proper reply to JGroovestar after class.