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[Leafsnail]

It's actually good that I got only town results, in a way - the only thing that would've been better would be inspecting both scum.  If I got 1 scum result and 1 town, I wouldn't know who the second scum was at all.

And what do you mean, not trusting cop claims at lylo?  I claimed now because I a) almost know who the scum are and b) know that being NK'd is no longer a real problem.

And what's with BOTH OF YOU buddying to Vector?  Yes, I have been accusing people of misusing such a fallacy before, but you're ruling out of him in the possible scum list smacks of trying to get at least one towny on your side.

[Free Beer]

A question for you, ToonyMan:

If you are really town, WHY DO YOU THINK THE SCUM LEFT US BOTH ALIVE???

[Pandarsenic]

I'm not buddying to him. I just don't see him following you so closely as Free Beer and I became convinced of his probable townie-osity in the past.

Here's what I think, Leafsnail. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think there is no cop. I think you gambled on the lack of a cop to claim it yourself, and I think when we crack open your Scum Chat, we'll have a cute little idea of yours, that you'll claim cop and accuse your scum partner and a townie; you'll say you found everyone else to be town, and everyone else will nod their heads at this accurate result, because you know them to be town - because you're scum. And you'll point your finger and shout at the townie, but if you can't convince enough people that the townie is the scum, you'll say, "Fine, what about him?" and point to your backup, your scum partner. And when he gets lynched, tomorrow you kill one of the "confirmed" townies and crow about how you called it and the townie couldn't kill you or he would lend credibility to your arguments, despite how much WIFOM your death would create "if there was a Godfather." And then the town lynches me, and the town loses, and you laugh about how gullible we were.

Am I right?

[Vector]

Because I don't buy cop claims at Lylo, as a matter of course; the addition of you going by only Town results isn't helping.

I can certainly believe a team of you and Toony.

I would probably say any 2 of Leafsnail, ToonyMan, and Free Beer are the Mafia..

Find your favorite and convince us, then.  As it is, you're just saying "Anyone but me and Vector."  I'm a safe choice, because it seems like everyone thinks I'm town now... so you saying the same doesn't really matter.

This is ludicrous.  You aren't scum-hunting, you're trying to save your sorry hide.

This is what I think right now,

Free Beer/Leafsnail

or

Free Beer/Pandarsenic

Free Beer is scum either way and I am almost certain of his scumitude.

You'd do better by attacking Free Beer than you are by standing back and trying to deflect to anyone but yourself.  Nice retroactive Toony Tunnel, by the way.



Further, you two aren't doing a very good job of "saying why the other is scum."  Mostly, you're saying that they can be, but you don't know... interesting, yes?


Also, to the people talking about the oddity of Leafsnail's town inspections: wouldn't he do better by saying he investigated someone who turned up scum last night, while the other two results were town?

If I were scum claiming cop, this is how I'd do it...

1. Investigate Vector - town.  Safe because it seems like everyone thinks I'm town, now.
2. Investigate scum partner - town.
3. Investigate powerful townie - SCUM!!

In this case, I would have indicted Free Beer, because he's easily the most aggressive among us.  I think Leafsnail is right, but that we should lynch ToonyMan today rather than Pandarsenic.  Then I want to see who gets NK'd, because I'm pretty sure about ToonyMan being scum.



Also: yeah.  I may be weak to buddying, but both of you should cut it out and start trying harder to get someone killed.

[ToonyMan]

Stop pairing me with Pandarsenic!
Also, I highly doubt Vector is scum after his reactions from Free Beer.

A question for you, ToonyMan:

If you are really town, WHY DO YOU THINK THE SCUM LEFT US BOTH ALIVE???

What, you mean you and Leafsnail or Pandarsenic?  The scum killed Org and Aliphioc (or whatever).  I don't know.  They liked to kill small talkers until Webadict.

I have a question for you!

Why do you think the scum left you alive?!

[Pandarsenic]

Vector, read my theory. I'm pretty sure of a Toony/Leafy team.

[Leafsnail]

That is indeed possible, but Pandar, you don't just need to suggest an alternative - you have to tell us why that alternative is more likely than me being a cop who's found out the scum.  As I said, the more I think abouta Pandar/ Toony scumteam and read through the thread, the more it seems to make sense.

[ToonyMan]

How's it make sense exactly?

[Vector]

They liked to kill small talkers until Webadict.

Webadict was a small talker in this game.


@Pandarsenic: I read your theory.

Also, Ninja'd by Leafsnail.

[ToonyMan]

Oh yeah.  Webadict was small talking.

[Pandarsenic]

Spoiler: Boomboom (click to show/hide)

I vote Leafsnail for being SCUM.

And good evening to you too, Toony.  Anti-FoS for behaving just as you normally do.

And so, ExKirby, which players would you least like to be scum and why?

Toony's first randomvote and Leafy's response. I know I dismissed the "Anti-FoS" at the time, but retrospectively, it's just another link between the two.

Who would be your favorite scum partner?

ToonyMan, for being generally impossible to read and aggressive enough to get things done.  He'd also be pretty easy to bus if things went horribly wrong.

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF WIFOM

How many scum are here, three?  No, there's only nine players.

Org is scum for lurking, how much has he posted, once?  He's getting piled on and still hasn't said anything.  Maybe he's hoping for his scum mate to save him?!  Whatever, he did the same thing in Paranormal 8.  He's probably going to come on saying, "I'M MAKING HAM SANDWICH LOLWUT."

ExKirby or Leafsnail is the other scum ball.  ExKirby for trying to bandwagon Pandarsenic and realizing he's been found out going after good old Diakron.  Leafsnail, well...I don't know really.  I voted him in the beginning.  :-D

Toony re-accuses Leafy in a manner so soft it can't be anything but a joke.

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Ok, fair enough.  Seems like a good summary.  Unvote.

On the other hand, ToonyMan, you've been very, very quiet.  Even as you were accused, you only seemed to respond half heartedly.  Also, as Free Beer has been attacking Vector, you have said nothing.  Where's your normal aggressive play?  Why are you trying to avoid detection?

Leafsnail posts this and disappears until Webadict prods him. In fa-

WHOA.

*sigh* Why, oh why, do you always turn out to be scum, Vector?

Ha ha. Only kidding. For now. On the real hand, Leafsnail is scum. And, by association, ToonyMan is likely his partner.

Case solved. Let's go home. I've got tea boiling on the stove. I'd like to say this is a new record. If I'm right.

Well now. I didn't realize this before, but Webadict thought it was Leaf/Toony....

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ToonyMan - Hasn't actually been doing very much, not even Toony Tunneling anyone.  His normal aggression seems to be missing in this game, which remains strange.
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Good lord, how many times are you going to FoS Toony?

Well, while some people crack under pressure, it would seem that some people crack right in the midst of a rabid attack.  Unvote, vote Free Beer.

What the heck are you doing?  The calm, analytical Free Beer of Night 1 appears to have gone, and you are now throwing accusations round at random.  ANYONE who thinks ANYONE else is town is automatically scum, aren't they?  It's either "Defending" or "Buddying".  And why the heck did you do this thing of switching off me AGAIN?  What?  Do you think I'll be an easy lynch later on, while ToonyMan is more likely to get lynched today?  If I'm scum, and you still seem to think I am, why are you voting for the easier target rather than me?

Basically, you seem to just be conditioning people to be lynched later.  See BM2, with Pandarsenic's attacking of people, only to pull away if they seemed like an easy lynch for the next day.  After all, webadict thinks I'm scum, so you think I'm doomed to be lynched at some point, right?  So why attack a dead man today when you can kill someone else today and get me tomorrow?

Third vote on Free Beer - and going for the throat, as well... after unvoting Toony. Of course, the unvote of Toony is just icing on the SCUM.

Feel free to do this for me, Free Beer / Toony / Leafsnail, if you think I'm scum.

[Free Beer]

Stop pairing me with Pandarsenic!
Also, I highly doubt Vector is scum after his reactions from Free Beer.

A question for you, ToonyMan:

If you are really town, WHY DO YOU THINK THE SCUM LEFT US BOTH ALIVE???

What, you mean you and Leafsnail or Pandarsenic?  The scum killed Org and Aliphioc (or whatever).  I don't know.  They liked to kill small talkers until Webadict.

I have a question for you!

Why do you think the scum left you alive?!

I'll tell you why the scum left me alive, ToonyMan. It's for two reasons, really:
1. I was on to them on Day One. My first round of accusations was against Pandarsenic and Leafsnail. My second round of accusations was against Vector and ToonyMan. NKing me would have implicated both of them.
2. On Day Two, it seemed likely that they could push a Free Beer lynch, and they were more preoccupied with trying to find the Cop.

If you're town, then the fact that you are still alive right now is testament to the fact that I am town- the scum left you alive because your obsession with voting for me guarantees a town loss at LyLo. If I were scum, I'd have NK'd you D2 and reinforced my previous claim of "the scum are out to get me."

It does not escape notice that you completely ignored the possibility that I meant you and me when I said "both of us." It was the only possible way to interpret the sentence - I had addressed you, and did not mention anyone else. This is probably since I prefixed the question with "If you are really town," and since you knew you were scum the idea didn't register.

And if you're scum, then I also know Pandarsenic is scum. This is because of your behavior N2: When I went after Vector, you accused me of being scum on grounds that I went after Vector. When I went after Leafsnail, you accused me of being scum on grounds that I went after Leafsnail. When I went after you, you accused me of being scum on grounds that I didn't go after Pandarsenic. You told us everything, right then and there.

[Free Beer]

To Pandarsenic:

You WoT has lots of information about Leafsnail, but very little information about you. I am not amused.

To ToonyMan:

You're online. You've been online for more than an hour. I know you have viewed this thread and seen my accusation from several hours ago. And you have decided to remain silent. I hope you realize how damning this is?

[Vector]

And I call bullshit on Leafsnail, because quite simply, I know myself to be town, so either one of the people he scanned is a Godfather, or as I believe, he's claiming Cop at Lylo so we execute the one mislynch that leads us to failure.

1. Your sentence structure tells me you're nervous.

2. I call bullshit on you.  If you're really sure about ToonyMan, why aren't you willing to go along with us and get him lynched?  We'd be down a scum that way, at the very least.  As it is, you're tangoing around, trying to get the person who may or may not be scum lynched.

You're scum, dude.  Down you go.


Folks, let's do this thing.  ToonyMan goes today, Pandarsenic tomorrow.

[ToonyMan]

To ToonyMan:

You're online. You've been online for more than an hour. I know you have viewed this thread and seen my accusation from several hours ago. And you have decided to remain silent. I hope you realize how damning this is?

Bring thou questions forth!


Also, everyone seems dead set on a ToonyMan/Pandarsenic lynch.  Is that what you want?  For town to lose?!  Heh.