Really, Vector, now you're just contradicting yourself. I'm tired of arguing with you and I want to see you dead, because I already know you're scum.
Wasn't this obvious from the calls to crucify me? I'm kind of curious, anyway. Why take your execution method of choice as one that is famous for the destruction of innocents and martyrs? You could say "DROWN THE SCUM" or "LYNCH THE SCUM" or perhaps "DEFENESTRATE THE SCUM" and it would make sense, but your peculiar methodology does not fit with your suspicions.
(I was going to say something about "IMMOLATE THE SCUM," but unfortunately most of the interesting words for murdering someone involve the innocence of the victim in question)
I questioned ExKirby and voted him. I also gave him advice. This is not an entirely binary situation.
..which is why I am suspicious of you. You had nothing to gain as town by sending out mixed signals like that. Other the other hand, as scum, if Org died instead of ExKirby, ExKirby would have made an easy N2 lynch - doubly so since he would have been mostly responsible for killing Org in order to save himself. If Org is town and your action was successful, we'd be at 3/2 with no new information.
Didn't think of that.
If I'd really wanted Org to die, I would have voted him myself, or removed my concessionary statements as to his standardized behavior. I'm reasonably good at framing other people.
1. Yeah. I'm a person who wants to learn how to get along with people.
2. First off, I wasn't lying in BM1. I'm actually a pretty passive person, until my temper gets the best of me.
- RL issues, which are not exactly your business.
3. Even if he's scum, I appreciate someone--anyone--sticking up for me.
- He said nothing suspicious, so I didn't attack him D1. I was busy with ExKirby.
4. I do not have to play the game by your standards alone, Free Beer. I will not apologize for trying to be helpful.
This is a game of Mafia, not Barbie Horse Adventures. As I had already pointed out, these make you look more suspicious, not less.
If they make me look more suspicious, then they make me more suspicious. I will not lie just to make myself look better. The truth is more important than whether some guy on the internet "lynches" some other guy on the internet.
I don't want to justify my behavior or say that it's optimized for playing Mafia. I don't intend to tell you that I am a skilled player. I mean only to explain myself, and if you don't believe me then that is unfortunate.
Why do you think I keep repeating myself, if what I say only makes me more suspicious? It's because it's true...
6. I didn't quote my role PM verbatim because I would be mod-killed. Further, I'm a townie with no special powers whatsoever.
If you check the flavor text for this game, you will find that there is in fact no role called "Townie." They are called "Recruits." Further, when you stated your role PM vindicates you, you said that this PM specifically identified you as town. Again, check the flavor text. There is no "town." This is the Litia family rooting out spies. Of course, a spy like you wouldn't have gotten the memo about all of this.
Interestingly enough, my role is not listed as "Recruit." It is listed as "Townie." Role in the game: recruit. Name of role on my PM: "Townie."
You don't seem to be getting it, so I'll be a direct as possible: I am asking you to use logic and evidence. Both of these work in Mathematics. They work in real life, as well.
Burden of proof. I cannot prove I'm town. I actually don't know what I might do to convince you, other than repeatedly telling you the reasoning behind my actions.
And you didn't pick up that citing a couple of examples combined with propaganda does not constitute good reasoning. In the general case, your actions are scum-tells. You're emitting them like Uranium emits alpha particles. And your crummy excuse of "I want to be helpful" doesn't cut it.
Nope, I didn't pick up what you were trying to tell me. Kind of sucks, doesn't it.
There are excuses, and there are explanations. My explanation for my behavior may not be what you want to see.
I haven't anti-FOS'd you. I said that you didn't look like scum to me at the moment. You look like some sort of asshole trying to intimidate my stubbornness out my ears, so I'll lie down and allow myself to be lynched. My dislike of you does not mean you cannot be town. It just means that I don't really want to play games with you if you're going to act like this.
That's not what you said. This is what you said:
You've got problems, dude. You're probably town, because no scum would act like this.
So, after I flip town, my suggestion is that y'all take a look at Pandarsenic and Org, just because they've been standing back while we eat each other. Maybe ToonyMan, too, because Free Beer may be correct about the buddying--though I think he'd be less overt about it. I also think that Pandarsenic has been a bit too jumpy for my tastes.
Heck, Leafsnail... what do you think about the current mess? ToonyMan showed up and posted, so I'd like to hear your thoughts.
You said it's highly unlikely for me to be scum, then proceeded to FoS every other active player except me. That's about as anti-FoSing as it gets there. Considering ToonyMan's repeated mentions of how it's "impossible" for me to be "bussing you," I'd think you're laying the groundwork for a N3 Free Beer lynch after you flip scum.
Yup. It's pretty unlikely for you to be scum, and you'll get out of this scot-free in any case because "Vector was dropping scum-tells everywhere." My guess is that it's Org/Leafsnail, given the part where they haven't really said anything, even when I repeatedly asked them to. I tried to give my opinions at the time, so at least I'd be useful after you lynched me.
Further, I haven't admitted to buddying. Buddying is a strategy used by scum when they are trying to lure the town into a false sense of security. My altruism is non-strategic.
Then what was this?
I understand that it is more important to you to buddy up to the other players than to catch the scum.
It's more important to be kind than it is to win a game.
I stated that you implied you were buddying. You attempted to justify it. That constitutes admitting it.
*shrug*
I guess that's your interpretation. I don't really feel like I can convince you otherwise, at this point. I've spoken my piece, and there's no point in just saying the same things over and over. If you have any other questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them.
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