Redwarrior, I must ask, whats the reason for asking that question? It does seem rather loaded.
This was one of your first posts. Two people had pointed out this behaviour before you; there are plenty more important things to do than badger someone who's already being badgered. This is a null tell, as you're just following the crowd, but that's a mistake in itself.
Actually, that makes you more townie in my eyes. You didn't try and futz around the issue, you stated plainly what you would do, and it made sense. Best of all, you didn't seem to lie, so that's points for you.
This is obviously just an early attempt at buddying.
Sooo....since he's leaving, best start scumhunting again. Leads me to this question, what reads are you getting, and why?
I've gotten two reads I'm confident enough on sharing right now,
Vector: Agressive, pushing, both to me are good town tells, even if you tend to tunnelvision.
Webadict: So far, I'm leaning town on him, he tends to be pretty good about being helpful, and scumhunting.
Less strongly,
Dr Johnson: I like how he didn't dodge the question, and answered them all, even if he was a bit dodgy at first. Leaning town on him, if only somewhat.
The rest, I haven't gotten enough on, so Major Sephiroth, whats your opinion on things now?
No mention of Eduren. Gee, isn't that strange? Looking back, you haven't mentioned him at all yet. Not once. Distancing yourself from your partner, perhaps?
Vote Count:
ExKirby[2]: Eduren, , Tehstefan
RedWarrior0[2]:Dr. Johbson, Daikron
Diakron[2]:, Vector, Webadict
Webadict[1]: Criptfeind
Not voting: Major_Sephiroth, Jetsquirrel, ExKirby, RedWarrior0,
Deadline: Today at 11am EST
There are less than 10 hours left.
Yet suspiciously, you both came to the same conclusion regarding ExKirby! Actually, this was a bandwagon on your part, you just re-used Eduren's argument without quoting him or mentioning his name.
You bring up a good point, he is not contributing much. Eduren, why not give us some analyze of the posts so far, and who's on your scum list? We could do with a scent to track right now.
This was your first communication with him throughout the entire game. I wouldn't be surprised if one of you realized, "Hey, maybe completely avoiding each other up until page 11 was pretty strange! We better at least acknowledge each other!"
How many votes to lynch guys?
In any case, I'm not so sure Eduren is scum. My problem is that it seems a bit too, well easy. He's an IC, surely he wouldn't be be so silly as to expose himself so soon? Perhaps its just me, but this seems far too quick for my liking.
As to the question Eduren asked me, I get a feeling that he's actually town, he blew up far too easily, if he were scum, he'd try and cool down, not go nuclear like that. Just my two cents on this issue.
And Exkirby, I have a question. Who do you think are scum and why? I don't think I've seen you contribute one thing to this discussion, so hearing why you believe Eduren to be lynch worthy would be interesting.
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Diakron: Your actions Day 1 definitely seemed scummy as already shown by Vector. I think that you got off easy with your outburst.
Tehstefan: You are going after a confirmed absentee(ist?)(I would'nt call it lurking since he's never on). This is a safe move because your questions are only answered sparingly and can be easily lost in the intervening noise. What do you think of Diakron? Frustrated townie or overly defensive mafia?
Criptfeind: You basically did what Web told you to do. Unless I see some original thinking, I will be forced to investigate further. What do you think of Diakron? Frustrated townie or overly defensive mafia?
Web: Trying to off your competition I see. Everyone, there is a large possibility that he is targeting the most experienced first, in order to lead his flock of newbies off a cliff. If he hasn't manipulated you all into a lynch then look for me to die tonight.
Vector: You seemed confident in lynching Diakron Day 1. Has his outburst changed your view of him or something? If he is still scum in your mind, why have you held off on voting him today?
I will get to everybody else in the morning.
Looking over my thoughts, I'm going to give webadict a chance to respond. But if it isn't to my liking I will vote you.
He FoS's you with little reason. Criptfeind blindly followed Web; at least you were trying to find scum on your on. Going after the inactive players is strange, sure, but not as strange as following the crowd. Eduren messed up here; he realized the lack of communication between you two was going to end up lynching one or both of you, eventually. He tries to make everyone think, "I've been watching him all along, you see!" by emblazoning a blue FoS onto you.
EBWOP: Also, you know telling us about your meta data might have been useful beforehand, not just right now? Its kind of important to tell us everything you know about the target.
Vote: Eduren
I find your lack of helpfulness disconcerting, you hardly have given any sort of advice, you've been active lurking, I've failed to see you scum hunt at all, and when you do, you give no reasons for it.
Also, I say Diakron is town, in my post, yet I'm blindly following him when he says to kill him? I fail to see how your arguement holds up in this regard!
Now, this was the final vote cast on Eduren. You realized he was going down, and you panicked. You did one of the worst things possible — you jumped on the bandwagon. The only worse thing you could've done would've been to outright defend him.
Also, here you think that Diakron is town. After Eduren is lynched, you change your opinion around and say his behaviour was suspicious, bandwagoning with webadict.
Webadict, from what I've seen, I highly doubt you just bussed your scum buddy so soon in the game. So, as far as one can be, your townie. Doesn't mean I won't be watching you, but good catch with Eduren.
Now, as for our next target, perhaps it'd be good to look back on the thread, and watch whats happening.
Jetsquirrel who is the other scum in your opinion? We haven't heard from you at all lately.
Now you're trying to buddy up with web. It's just you now, your scum buddy is gone, you need to gain someone's trust. Webadict calls you out on this strange behaviour a few posts later.
Hmm. My only problem with that, is of course, the mafia. Its never good to try and give ultimatums, because, the mafia can read them. If I agree, and the mafia see's that, they they know, they don't have to NK him, they can just nk someone else, and let the town lynch him. Sure, its somewhat of a WIFOM, but now that its out in the open, we can't do it. I will put harsh suspicion on him, but I won't guarantee a lynch. That'd just be bad for the town.
This was your last post of importance. You tell me, "Hey, you shouldn't say anything for sure, I mean, the mafia will use it to their advantage!"
Your plan, of course, hinged on me keeping to my word. "Now that it's out in the open, we can't do it."
"EBWOP: Also, I have beef with the fact you already went back on your word. You want to lynch Webadict, but all the sudden, now I'm the scum? I find it hilarious that your so fickle scum."
Uh, you just told me that we
can't follow that plan. Captain, what am I supposed to do?!
You're clearly the one grasping at straws, here, contradicting yourself left and right.
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