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[Grax]

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Make a raising drawbridge, link it to the lever, wait till the animal/enemy step on it, push the lever.
The lever works, switches to other side, but bridge does not rise. Why?!

[Haspen]

Bridges (and floodgates) have to wait 100 'steps' before they're raised/opened.

They don't go at instant.

[Grax]

Bridges (and floodgates) have to wait 100 'steps' before they're raised/opened.

They don't go at instant.

Sadly, they don't go at all, when there's a living being on them.

[Haspen]

Bridges (and floodgates) have to wait 100 'steps' before they're raised/opened.

They don't go at instant.

Sadly, they don't go at all, when there's a living being on them.

Nah, I just crushed a dog who was standing on the edge...

[Grax]

Bridges (and floodgates) have to wait 100 'steps' before they're raised/opened.

They don't go at instant.

Sadly, they don't go at all, when there's a living being on them.

Nah, I just crushed a dog who was standing on the edge...

Crushed? Why crushed? It have to be flying, not be crushed.

[Sphalerite]

Assuming it was properly hooked up, the only thing that would prevent the bridge from raising would be if there was a megabeast or wagon on it.  Ordinary creatures standing on a bridge won't prevent it from raising, and will be either thrown off or crushed depending on where they were standing.

[Grax]

Assuming it was properly hooked up, the only thing that would prevent the bridge from raising would be if there was a megabeast or wagon on it.  Ordinary creatures standing on a bridge won't prevent it from raising, and will be either thrown off or crushed depending on where they were standing.

Hooked up. Hm.
It have to be anchored on one side and that's all. "Empty" bridges raises as usual, but those with mammoths on them - do not.
And this is sad.

[Sphalerite]

It have to be anchored on one side and that's all. "Empty" bridges raises as usual, but those with mammoths on them - do not.
And this is sad.

Vanilla dwarf fortress doesn't have mammoths.  What mod are you using, and does it code mammoths as megabeasts or building destroyers or something?

[Grax]

It have to be anchored on one side and that's all. "Empty" bridges raises as usual, but those with mammoths on them - do not.
And this is sad.

Vanilla dwarf fortress doesn't have mammoths.  What mod are you using, and does it code mammoths as megabeasts or building destroyers or something?

Oh... They're wagon pullers.

[CREATURE:MAMMOTH_WOOLLY]
        [NAME:woolly mammoth:woolly mammoths:woolly mammoths]
        [TILE:'M'][COLOR:0:0:1]
        [LARGE_ROAMING]
        [MODVALUE:5]
        [GENPOWER:3]
        [PREFSTRING:tusks]
        [PREFSTRING:shaggy bulk]
        [IVORY]
        [DIURNAL]
        [POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
        [CLUSTER_NUMBER:3:7]
        [BENIGN][MEANDERER][NATURAL][PET][trAINABLE]
        [PETVALUE:500]
        [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:TRUNK:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH:2TUSKS]
        [SIZE:20]
        [MAXAGE:50:70]
        [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:STANCE:kick:kicks:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
        [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTOKEN:RTUSK:tusk:tusks:1:6:GORE]
        [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTOKEN:LTUSK:tusk:tusks:1:6:GORE]
        [CHILD:3][CHILDNAME:mammoth calf:mammoth calves]
        [FAT:30]
        [BIOME:GLACIER]
        [BIOME:TUNDRA]
        [BIOME:SHRUBLAND_TEMPERATE]
        [BIOME:GRASSLAND_TEMPERATE]
        [STANDARD_FLESH]
        [HOMEOTHERM:10066]
        [LAYERING:200]
        [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
        [MUNDANE]
        [WAGON_PULLER][PACK_ANIMAL]
        [trADE_CAPACITY:5000]

[Quietust]

The mere fact that it's a wagon puller shouldn't stop a bridge from operating, otherwise you wouldn't be able to atomsmash horses (and I'm pretty sure you can). Perhaps the [SIZE:20] is what's doing it (which is pretty damn huge - elephants are size 16) - the only other creatures that big are megabeasts and whale sharks.

[Grax]

The mere fact that it's a wagon puller shouldn't stop a bridge from operating, otherwise you wouldn't be able to atomsmash horses (and I'm pretty sure you can). Perhaps the [SIZE:20] is what's doing it (which is pretty damn huge - elephants are size 16) - the only other creatures that big are megabeasts and whale sharks.

Hm. Wait a minute, let me try it in real. ;-)

[Grax]

WOW.
Bridge had crush itself into compound stones by the mammoths when lowering on them.

[Quietust]

Just did a few tests, and it is indeed the [SIZE] that does it - when I embarked with dwarves having [SIZE:11] they were unsmashable, but dropping to [SIZE:10] made them vulnerable again. Thus, it would appear that immunity to the Dwarven Atom Smasher (bridge refuses to retract/raise, deconstructs when lowering) is granted merely by having a SIZE greater than 10.

[Smew]

Just did a few tests, and it is indeed the [SIZE] that does it - when I embarked with dwarves having [SIZE:11] they were unsmashable, but dropping to [SIZE:10] made them vulnerable again. Thus, it would appear that immunity to the Dwarven Atom Smasher (bridge refuses to retract/raise, deconstructs when lowering) is granted merely by having a SIZE greater than 10.

This is a good and helpful post and you should feel good now.

[Untelligent]

Now we should mod in size 10 Hidden Fun Critters and megabeasts and see if the drawbridges kill them.

This may alter an axiom we've held for ages.