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[Vector]

I love bitter LOL. I drink multiple cups of pu'er almost every day (and eat a lot of bitter melon). It's just the sour/acidic that I can't handle. Lemon, raw tomato, kiwi, walnuts . . . these are all foods that I like the tastes of, but tend to avoid (especially by themselves) cuz they hurt my mouth.

Although with black coffee, the issue is more diarrhea. LOL.

[Egan_BW]

It's a feature. Lets you take bathroom breaks, see? :v

[Rolan7]

Oh right, this was mainly a pizza joint!  I think it (or the wall-tap system) was called Zero or something.  I hope it's still around in some form next year, I love the idea of beer-tasting.  Beer can actually be delicious if you have the bitter tolerance for it, without ever getting drunk.  Tasting obscure beers between bites of food.  Lovely.

I'm also leery of sour/acid.  It's great diluted in water, and vitamin C is super healthy, but it's tricky to eat because too much seems to damage one's mouth.  Hiding it in sugar like orange juice almost makes it worse, but my sugar tolerance is also low.

(And nice bars in my experience seem more than happy to pour you a taste of a beer, that's part of the service.  But the automation of it was kinda cool (as an introvert consumer))

[MrRoboto75]

I wish bars/breweries carried more ciders.  I don't want the beers, and last time the local brewery ran out of root beer.  The only beer I've liked was Red's Apple Ale and that's because they try desperately not to taste like beer.

There was one specializing in cider in Richmond, but that's a bit out of the way.  They used the wood of the cider barrels in their barbeque.

[Mephansteras]

Just finished up a crazy bastard mod mafia game that turned into a free-form RPG part way through. It was fun to run, but I'm happy to be done with it. It was exhausting to keep up with. Learned a lot, though.

Also, Jef Major did a stream today in the first time in ages! Super happy to see him healthy enough to stream again.

[Yoink]

IBUs are confusing. At first glance it sounds like the more the better, but it doesn't really mean bitterness does it? It's more like... hoppiness, or general pungency. Unless I'm misremembering from the last time I looked it up?   

Anyway since we're speaking of beers, I generally despise craft beer (especially anything with an acronym ending in "PA", even though I've had actual "pale ales" that were nice. Weird), but over the last year or so I have made a very tentative discovery of sours. Started when my former housemates down in Melbourne had some locally-made watermelon sour (I think?) that they didn't really like and so offloaded it on me, the alcoholic beverage garbage disposal. To my surprise, I actually rather liked it.   
In more recent times, after moving a couple states north, I looked in this one bottle shop for that brand, couldn't find it, and ended up buying another sour instead. I think I forgot that the other one I'd had was "watermelon", but in any case the "passion fruit (sic) sour gose style ale" I ended up with was friggin' tight.   

It's from a company called Green Beacon. Has a really cool, but understated can design, too. I've tried some of their other beers (this is the only actual sour I've found) and didn't like them nearly as much. Last time I went into that liquor store to grab some they were having some deal where you got a 25% discount if you bought eight cans of "craft beer". Not knowing fuck-all about craft beer other than most of it is really bad, I stood around in front of the fridges for a while until one of the guys working there offered advice and I ended up with this "HPA" with a really cool image of a dead astronaut on the front - I will admit I'd already been eyeing it for the art.   
I figured, it's "hazy" not "India" so maybe it'll be alright, right? WRONG. Tasted the same as IPA, i.e. frickin' awful. Lesson learned: PA = bad. Sorry Pennsylvania.       
Took me a while to drink all four cans of that crap. Most of them I went through in the bath, after starting off with a bottle of nicer beer. I found that holding your nose whilst drinking helps a great deal, too.   

But anyway, this 7 Bells Passionfruit Sour Gose Style Ale is fantastic, even if I don't know exactly what "gose style" means.   

[Rolan7]

Sour beer...  Strange, but clearly a thing.  Closest I've ever gotten to that was Blue Moon, which is (as my ex-boss explained) better with a healthy squeeze of orange in it.

"Little or no hops"... madness.  That would reduce its utility a lot, sailing to India, I tell you what.  IPA all the way.

[LordBaal]

Black pilsen for me please. Or better just rum. Straight, dry

[Iduno]

IBUs are confusing. At first glance it sounds like the more the better, but it doesn't really mean bitterness does it? It's more like... hoppiness, or general pungency. Unless I'm misremembering from the last time I looked it up?   

Anyway since we're speaking of beers, I generally despise craft beer (especially anything with an acronym ending in "PA", even though I've had actual "pale ales" that were nice. Weird), but over the last year or so I have made a very tentative discovery of sours. Started when my former housemates down in Melbourne had some locally-made watermelon sour (I think?) that they didn't really like and so offloaded it on me, the alcoholic beverage garbage disposal. To my surprise, I actually rather liked it.   
In more recent times, after moving a couple states north, I looked in this one bottle shop for that brand, couldn't find it, and ended up buying another sour instead. I think I forgot that the other one I'd had was "watermelon", but in any case the "passion fruit (sic) sour gose style ale" I ended up with was friggin' tight.   

It's from a company called Green Beacon. Has a really cool, but understated can design, too. I've tried some of their other beers (this is the only actual sour I've found) and didn't like them nearly as much. Last time I went into that liquor store to grab some they were having some deal where you got a 25% discount if you bought eight cans of "craft beer". Not knowing fuck-all about craft beer other than most of it is really bad, I stood around in front of the fridges for a while until one of the guys working there offered advice and I ended up with this "HPA" with a really cool image of a dead astronaut on the front - I will admit I'd already been eyeing it for the art.   
I figured, it's "hazy" not "India" so maybe it'll be alright, right? WRONG. Tasted the same as IPA, i.e. frickin' awful. Lesson learned: PA = bad. Sorry Pennsylvania.       
Took me a while to drink all four cans of that crap. Most of them I went through in the bath, after starting off with a bottle of nicer beer. I found that holding your nose whilst drinking helps a great deal, too.   

But anyway, this 7 Bells Passionfruit Sour Gose Style Ale is fantastic, even if I don't know exactly what "gose style" means.   

The bitterness depends on when during the brewing process the hops were added. Based on my memories from a few years back 9no longer have space to brew): Near the beginning of boiling, they mostly add bitterness. Hops added near the end of the boil add a grassy or fruity flavor depending on the variety of hops you used, and ones added after add a hoppy scent/aroma.

I think a lot of the hatred people get over Pale Ales is how difficult it can be to find literally any other style of beer. I understand it's easier to make on an industrial scale, because your mistakes are hidden by all of the hops, but you shouldn't be ruining batches very often anyway.

Hazy IPAs are just ones that weren't filtered properly. Like Swiss Cheese with holes, it's a bad batch that they managed to use as a selling point.

[Yoink]

Ohhhh. So, in conclusion: dump in allll the hops right at the start of the boiling process and no later. Gotcha!   

You know, I've been thinking lately that homebrewing would actually be kind of fun to try my hand at.   
Of course, slapping together a still would be pretty cool, too. Imagine all the money I would save on booze...   

[Eric Blank]

My brother made his own mead last month, turned out okay apparently (I don't drink alcohol and it tasted like pissy apple juice to me)

He saved all the booze bottles he and his girlfriend drank to bottle it. They drink a lot, you see.

[Gunner-Chan]

Oh hey homemade mead is usually pretty great, I usually got some from one of my sisters friends every year. ... Which I barely realized is likely not happening this Christmas because of the fucking plague. Dammit.

Anyway I've been playing the Ace combat games a lot lately, anyone else here ever play them? I seriously can't believe I went so long never touching these given how much they're working out for me, I already beat 4 and zero and have been going through 5 now inbetween going through zero again on hard mode trying to stay on soldier ace style and getting S ranks in 4.

I might be developing an unhealthy attachment to the SU-37.

[Frumple]

There's definitely a chunk of ace combat players floating around the forum, though I forget actual user names. You see chatter about the series pop up occasionally.

... haven't played more than like maybe two minutes from a demo or something, personally, though. Never got along super great with flight sim type stuff.

[hector13]

I loved the demo for ace combat 2. Felt more arcade-y than a flight sim.

[scriver]

My brother made his own mead last month, turned out okay apparently (I don't drink alcohol and it tasted like pissy apple juice to me)

Hey if it wasn't poser mead it would have been totally okay to drink, there's barely any alcohol in mead