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[i2amroy]

Well he did have two marriages and a fiancé who thought he was a great guy up until she was personally confronted by his role in the holocaust, so he must have had at least a bit of niceness in him somewhere (just not aimed at the vast majority of people).

[Comrade P.]

Well he did have two marriages and a fiancé who thought he was a great guy.

This bit is easily explained with those sweet Hugo Boss uniforms rather than personal qualities, in my opinion.

[Egan_BW]

In my opinion, everyone has their moments, both terrible and terrific. Nobody is simple enough to be called a terrible person period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amon_G%C3%B6th
What about him?

He temporarily quit the SS and Nazi party activities until 1937 and lived in Munich while trying to help his parents to develop their publishing business.

Not 100%

[TD1]

Of course not. He had a soft spot for mummy and daddy.

He's still a terrible person, even if he's not 100% pure evil in a cocktail glass.

[Loud Whispers]

That publishing business WAS ELECTRONIC ARTS

[hector13]

Seems legit.

[IcyTea31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amon_G%C3%B6th
What about him?

Not having met the man myself, there's not much I can say. Faint praise and certainly not redeeming, not by a long shot, but he did have a taste in music:

Yet Göth spared the life of Jewish prisoner Natalia Hubler (later known as Natalia Karp) and that of her sister, after hearing her play a nocturne by Chopin on the piano the day after she arrived at the Płaszów camp.

People are complex. Although Göth was historically an evil nazi monster, he was probably not just that.

Look at me, playing Devil's a nazi's advocate.

[Xantalos]

Ahahahaha

Oh goddammit I'm weak I can feel the decision shift happening already but right now I'm too happy to care.

[Levi]

Hahaha, a guy made a fake hack that waited a while and then caused a bunch of counterstrike players to get VAC banned on steam.   

http://steamed.kotaku.com/counter-strike-player-says-their-fake-hacks-got-thousan-1756465584

[Egan_BW]

VAC

[TD1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amon_G%C3%B6th
What about him?

Not having met the man myself, there's not much I can say. Faint praise and certainly not redeeming, not by a long shot, but he did have a taste in music:

Yet Göth spared the life of Jewish prisoner Natalia Hubler (later known as Natalia Karp) and that of her sister, after hearing her play a nocturne by Chopin on the piano the day after she arrived at the Płaszów camp.

People are complex. Although Göth was historically an evil nazi monster, he was probably not just that.

Look at me, playing Devil's a nazi's advocate.

The Nazis liked music. He spared them, presumably, to hear them play. A lecturer called it "Beethoven during the night and butchery during the day."

It wasn't out of pity or empathy - he just wanted another musician.

Besides, appreciation of something doesn't make a person somehow good. He also appreciated money, so much so that he was accused of taking from dead Jews what was meant to go to the state. He could have liked music, or had a taste in it, but he could also have had a taste in good wine. It's not preferences that makes a person good, but actions.

But no, he's not just a terrible person. He was also other things, possibly a loving son for instance. Individual blips in a person's life doesn't make them not-terrible.

[IcyTea31]

A good less-than-evil deed done for selfish reasons is still a good less-than-evil deed done.

[TD1]

Depends on whether you're a consequentialist or not. His preferences made him spare some people = a good deed.

If you are not a consequentialist, then his motives come into question. His motives were based around self enjoyment and personal pleasure.

[FallacyofUrist]

I completed and got a decent score on a painful test. Joy, me. Have joy.

[Loud Whispers]

Or he just appreciated aesthetics and disregarded human life. The whole thing with excellent uniforms, gorgeous architecture, incredible music - all wrapped up around an efficient killing machine. Beethoven by day, butchery by night