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[ArKFallen]

Or we could treat hemovorism as a necessary evil and start up blood banks.  Dur.

And when demand outstrips supply? It is much faster to make more vampires than humans. Some power hungry undead asshole will undoubtedly try.

Chances are the people who already know and like you aren't going to hate you just because of an infectious superpower

"Wait! Is that why you are so clingy in hugs!?!"
Are your friends going to be happy when they learn the only reason you have superstrength and can continue to exist is that you have unprotected sex with clean people while having HIV? And when someone catches it from you it is the same boat?

And besides that vampires are still people. It's not as though it's suddenly okay to start genociding them because they have a maybe-but-not-really-genetic disorder.

And sometimes you need to kill people to survive. And when those people have a phyiscal condition that will send them into psychotic rages with superhuman strength when hungry, angry, or hurt they are too dangerous to the public. That means they need to die or be isolated(if the latter they must be provided for forever).

[Calidovi]

"Wait! Is that why you are so clingy in hugs!?!"
Are your friends going to be happy when they learn the only reason you have superstrength and can continue to exist is that you have unprotected sex with clean people while having HIV? And when someone catches it from you it is the same boat?

HIV has not-superpower connotations. Trying to draw a parallel between that and vampirism is outright silly.

[Rolan7]

There's a lot more humans than vampires, and vampires can't fight during the day. Humans may not like being used as cattle for monsters.

Or we could treat hemovorism as a necessary evil and start up blood banks.  Dur.

That would work... except that in VtM vampires are (apparently) inhuman.  Even the Camarilla vampires, which theoretically use "humanity" as a means of maintaining self control, see actual humans as cattle and are usually somewhere between human and monster.  Maintaining the masquerade is far more important than preserving human lives, even "innocents".

Other vampire groups don't even pretend to have human morality.  They have various code, but the common element is that they all have to feed, and would be killed if exposed.

I don't know how much of that is "monstrous nature" and how much is just being an immortal human forced to steal blood to survive.  Most of the codes seem to focus on keeping the monster in check, but the methods are drastically different (including cooperation).  I wish I knew more about the setting actually...

According to some of the loading screens during Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines, humanity became aware of Kindred and nearly drove them to extinction in the Middle Ages(using pitchforks and, more importantly, torches). In VtM:B, humans still outnumber Kindred by about 60,000:1(I think that was the ratio), and have access to automatic weapons with incendiary ammunition - all vampires do take only 50% damage from normal bullets and automatically convert to blunt damage(easiest to defend against), but I would think IN bullets don't entirely have that penalty.

I dunno how cut and dry it is.  I think incendiary ammo would absolutely devastate most vampires, yeah.  But the older ones get some insane powers.  Particularly the antediluvians, the sleeping ancients so dangerous that the oldest active vampires are terrified of them.  "Mind controlling entire cities" level powers.
I kinda wonder if the main reason for secrecy is that humans might awaken the antediluvians.  A reveal would at least disrupt the balance of power, in a way that I bet centuries-old immortals would prefer to avoid.

[itisnotlogical]

Just picked up the entire Deus Ex series for less than $10. That's two games that I've never played, one game I owned on OnLive (which unfortunately died some time ago) and a game that I own on CD and hate taking out of the box every time I play.

[Bauglir]

Wait, what? I was only aware of three games, and that's counting Invisible War.

[Lightningfalcon]

Wait, what? I was only aware of three games, and that's counting Invisible War.

There were some new shitty games released that were ports from some phone game.

[itisnotlogical]

Yeah, Deus Ex: The Fall. It was an iOS game, then they ported it to PC for some bizarre reason. I hear it's total shit, but at least I got three good games to go with it.

[Bauglir]

Yeah, Deus Ex: The Fall. It was an iOS game, then they ported it to PC for some bizarre reason. I hear it's total shit, but at least I got three good games to go with it.

You got three good games? That must still mean there's a game I don't know about besides Deus Ex and Human Revolution.

I kid. Enjoy your stuff! It was a good deal.

[ArKFallen]

"Wait! Is that why you are so clingy in hugs!?!"
Are your friends going to be happy when they learn the only reason you have superstrength and can continue to exist is that you have unprotected sex with clean people while having HIV? And when someone catches it from you it is the same boat?

HIV has not-superpower connotations. Trying to draw a parallel between that and vampirism is outright silly.

Vampirism also has not-superpower connotations.

I added superpowers and requiring risky behavior for others to HIV to make it more of an apt analogy. The following is why I chose HIV instead of other diseases.

• HIV will kill you. A requirement for Vampirism is exsanguination.
• HIV makes something people innately want to do dangerous for others. Vampirism adds a new innate want that is dangerous for others.
• HIV is transmissible through the wanted action. Vampirism transmission can be chosen (V:tM-blood sharing) but the nature of the want make death an everpresent danger that can only be subverted by transmission.

If herpes was inherently fatal I would have used that instead of HIV to make the third bit a perfect fit.

[itisnotlogical]

Yeah, Deus Ex: The Fall. It was an iOS game, then they ported it to PC for some bizarre reason. I hear it's total shit, but at least I got three good games to go with it.

You got three good games? That must still mean there's a game I don't know about besides Deus Ex and Human Revolution.

I kid. Enjoy your stuff! It was a good deal.

From the brief few minutes of The Fall that I just played, it's merely mediocre, not totally unplayable. They must have updated it somewhere along the line, because the version that I saw in various reviews did look outright unplayable. It's still a very linear and simplified version of Human Revolution's gameplay though, which is bad.

[SalmonGod]

Is it weird that this made me happy today?

A collection of short comics about sleep paralysis.

I love creepy stuff like this.

[Rolan7]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Yeah this is too fascinating and true to my experiences not to read.
Just... maybe... in the morning.

[Orange Wizard]

Sleep paralysis is fucking terrifying. Bravery has nothing to do with it.

[Tomasque]

How much would you pay to have sleep paralysis but w/ any hallucination you want? You couldn't move, but you could control all of it.

[IcyTea31]

So, a regular lucid dream? I wouldn't pay much, really.