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Author Topic: [MILK] There were 12 eggs here what did you do with them? (Happy thread?!)  (Read 16322124 times)

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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143835 on: October 24, 2014, 11:39:22 am »

Smoking is a bad idea, don't do it.
Wait, was that directed to me? Cuz if so... <.<   >.>
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143836 on: October 24, 2014, 11:48:56 am »

Yeah, it's a bit late for "don't try it in the first place." He's trying to quit.

Keep at it, anski! You can do it!
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143837 on: October 24, 2014, 11:49:57 am »

So, I'm headed to New Jersey in a few minutes to visit an old friend. :D

And go to the better-stocked Jerseyan Best Buys, but that's a side attraction.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143838 on: October 24, 2014, 12:02:39 pm »

Smoking is a bad idea, don't do it.
Wait, was that directed to me? Cuz if so... <.<   >.>
Stop cold turkey, don't bother with ecigs. Just do. Don't try.

Yeah, it's a bit late for "don't try it in the first place." He's trying to quit.

Keep at it, anski! You can do it!
Trying isn't doing.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143839 on: October 24, 2014, 12:20:33 pm »

Hey hey hey Kevak, no. As the son of someone who has tried quitting smoking many times, I can say that cold turkey is a bad way to go. My dad has had an e-cig for a while, and supposedly he's been feeling a lot better than when he was smoking real tobacco.

Also, it's not as simple as "try harder and do it", it's an addiction <_<
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143840 on: October 24, 2014, 12:23:49 pm »

Yeah, no, seriously, whatever works, works. No need for this "Cold turkey, RAWR WILLPOWER" stuff.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143841 on: October 24, 2014, 12:28:23 pm »

Ecigs don't help, same dose of nicotine, sometimes with "extra" stuff mixed in. Although there are some that use less nicotine or even none, I can support the ones that use none.

It does actually come down to willpower, it's a choice of if you give in to the craving or say no and don't give in.

Headaches and withdrawal are bad sure, but they are manageable and won't kill you like more dangerous drugs can and do.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143842 on: October 24, 2014, 12:29:39 pm »

That is literally the most annoying thing anyone could say in this situation, Kevak.

Seriously.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143843 on: October 24, 2014, 12:30:52 pm »

Yeah no, not quite as easy as you're trying to make it out to be, Kevak.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143844 on: October 24, 2014, 12:32:24 pm »

Can't speak from personal experience, but from relatives who have successfully quit, encouragement from others seems to be a big help.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143845 on: October 24, 2014, 12:35:10 pm »

I mean, ecigs might not have been helpful for you (I assume you're talking from personal experience, here), but that doesn't mean they can't be helpful for anyone. There are surprisingly few situations in which there's only one right way to do things. Seems like the way to go is to just offer support unless asked for advice.

Although, did he even mention e-cigs?
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143846 on: October 24, 2014, 12:41:07 pm »

Not talking from personal experience, talking from experience in getting ten or so people to quit purely through willpower. Once they decided enough was enough (one after a massive coughing fit,), they just stopped. Each one has stated that it's much easier to just stop instead of trying to ween themselves off like they had been doing.
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« Reply #143847 on: October 24, 2014, 12:46:18 pm »

Where did e-cigs come from? He just said "I'm quitting smoking."

Also, good for you anzki4! You can do it!
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« Reply #143848 on: October 24, 2014, 12:47:43 pm »

Bauglir that was awesome. Thank you.

I am still a lawyer, though I am scaling back quite a bit and looking for some line of work outside law. I greatly dislike the legal profession. I guess I could still do the work etc, but I just don't like it.

Good news is I can now focus on that.
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Re: [???] What do they kno? Snoooooooooo (Happy thread)
« Reply #143849 on: October 24, 2014, 12:54:50 pm »

Erm... Trying to quite smoking for a month in this context means I haven't been smoking or using any nicotine products in a month. So yes, I'm going cold turkey and have no idea where you pulled the ecigs thing from. O.o
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