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[Flying Dice]

A generation ship would also need to either have far more space than the starting population requires or alternatively force restrictions on the number of children each individual can be responsible for.

[MaximumZero]

well, I had a conversation with my friend about the warp drive.

to alter space-time, you can just use gravity. this means that if you could find some way of producing higgs bosons, you could do one part of the bending space-time.

if you then use dark energy to bend space-time the other way, if it works like that, you could, potentially, get a warp drive.

but there's probably something shitting on my theory.

Do you have any idea how fucking cool your post sounds if you read it out loud?

Also, this is a bit... NSFW? My LF told me today that I have, 'A firm ass.' Then she was like, "Can I feel it?" It was a strange day. This is one of many things she said today that messed with me.

Well? Did you let her? I totally would have.

[Shinotsa]

more relevant image for my previous post:

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EDIT: also, I've accepted that in all likelihood, if we do explore out of our system, it'll be via generation ships or, if possible, cryostasis.

A friend of mine pointed out a flaw with generation ships that I never thought of before. By the time the ship reached it destination, or at least by the time the colony was able to send people back for trading, the colonists would have diverged evolutionary so much that they might not be recognizable as human. Humans evolved to live on a rotating planet with gravitation acceleration equal to 9.81 m/s/s downwards at sea level, and gradually decreasing as altitude increases. We did not evolve to live on a spaceship, potentially with artificial gravity that would not imitate Earth's gravity well, but probably with near-zero gravity, flying though space, not rotating. Just those differences alone would create some distinct adaptations in the people on the generation ships.

And then there's the fact that they will inevitably be horribly inbred, unless occupants are carefully selected to ensure that the gene pool is as diverse as possible. But, that would cause other problems, namely the fact that the occupants' life partners and future families are being picked for them, instead of by them. People tend to not like that.

India seems to have no problem with the whole arranged marriage thing, and if I recall correctly some studies done on relationship satisfaction have actually shown that those relationships are pretty decent. The being inbred problem would certainly arise, but the main concern I have about generation ships is how long they would have to last. Oxygen causes a lot of problems when it's around anything, and I find it hard to believe that we as a species could create something built to last for that long.

[Hanslanda]

Well? Did you let her? I totally would have.

Yes.

[kaijyuu]

Well? Did you let her? I totally would have.

Yes.

Go Hans!

[Descan]

Why don't we freeze like, thousands and thousands of samples of sperm and eggs from around the world, and send an A.I. to do it?

That way, people don't have to spend the rest of their life in space, and their descendants lives, and so on, and so on. (YOU try finding a stable gene-pools worth of people willing to go into a generation ship.) AND we don't need to worry about resources beyond fuel and energy (For the ship and sample preservation systems)

[Hanslanda]

I've never had something like that happen. I blushed so hard I think I leaked a little blood from my facial capillaries.

Also, we were checking this chick out, and I mentioned how she had freckles and they were hot, and my LF said, 'Do I have freckles?' And I said, "Yeah, a few." Then she said, 'I've got some on my shoulder here, does that make you [Yeah, redacted]?' And the answer was yes. Dear god woman. >.<

Apologies to anyone offended by sexual content, this isn't my intention. This stuff made me legitmately happy today.

Why don't we freeze like, thousands and thousands of samples of sperm and eggs from around the world, and send an A.I. to do it?

That way, people don't have to spend the rest of their life in space, and their descendants lives, and so on, and so on. (YOU try finding a stable gene-pools worth of people willing to go into a generation ship.) AND we don't need to worry about resources beyond fuel and energy (For the ship and sample preservation systems)

Two words: Computer Glitches.

[Shinotsa]

Aww yeah Hans! Getting groped by people who probably have no interest in you, but sure as hell don't act like it!

Speaking of awkward situations with people of no romantic interest, I had to practice placing EKG electrodes on my coworker the other day. Apparently bone conducts the signal the best, so we place the electrodes just under the clavicle and then down where your hip bone is. So basically it involves pulling down someone's shirt and pants, then spending time applying gel and rubbing a sticker while attempting to be as professional as possible.

[MaximumZero]

I've never had something like that happen. I blushed so hard I think I leaked a little blood from my facial capillaries.

Also, we were checking this chick out, and I mentioned how she had freckles and they were hot, and my LF said, 'Do I have freckles?' And I said, "Yeah, a few." Then she said, 'I've got some on my shoulder here, does that make you [Yeah, redacted]?' And the answer was yes. Dear god woman. >.<

Apologies to anyone offended by sexual content, this isn't my intention. This stuff made me legitmately happy today.

* MaximumZero highfives Hans.

Why don't we freeze like, thousands and thousands of samples of sperm and eggs from around the world, and send an A.I. to do it?

That way, people don't have to spend the rest of their life in space, and their descendants lives, and so on, and so on. (YOU try finding a stable gene-pools worth of people willing to go into a generation ship.) AND we don't need to worry about resources beyond fuel and energy (For the ship and sample preservation systems)

Two words: Computer Glitches.

That would be the worst computer crash ever.

[Flying Dice]

Why don't we freeze like, thousands and thousands of samples of sperm and eggs from around the world, and send an A.I. to do it?

That way, people don't have to spend the rest of their life in space, and their descendants lives, and so on, and so on. (YOU try finding a stable gene-pools worth of people willing to go into a generation ship.) AND we don't need to worry about resources beyond fuel and energy (For the ship and sample preservation systems)

Because having an AI with an age measured in centuries or millennia is a good thing to have raising tens of thousands of children. Even if it isn't crazy and doesn't break down, that'll be an, uh, interesting society.

[Hanslanda]

* Hanslanda returns high five.

And yeah, she almost certainly isn't interested in me like that. But still, this is the most female attention I've had in years.

[Descan]

Well, any space-ship would need a computer ANYWAY, so which is worse? A glitch in a ship that's basically a giant orgasm floating through space, or a glitch in a ship with actual PEOPLE who for tens of generations have been waiting to get to a planet and get their colonization on?

I think it speaks for itself.

[MaximumZero]

* Hanslanda returns high five.

And yeah, she almost certainly isn't interested in me like that. But still, this is the most female attention I've had in years.

Uh, most people don't grab your butt if they're not interested in you at all. Just sayin'.

[Nadaka]

Hell Hans, that is downright tame compared to some of the stuff we talk about round here.

When I was younger, thinner and had a short haircut, the the most butch woman I ever met (her name was Luke, and she was former army,  former police, former prison guard in both a mens and womens prison) once ran her fingers through my hair and whispered in my ear what a pretty girl I would make.

[Hanslanda]

* Hanslanda returns high five.

And yeah, she almost certainly isn't interested in me like that. But still, this is the most female attention I've had in years.

Uh, most people don't grab your butt if they're not interested in you at all. Just sayin'.

But she says it all the time. Although sometimes it sounds a little more like she's trying to convince herself than me. :X I know she's gay and just my friend, that's okay with me. Unless she does something that makes me excited, then I'll probably be unable to not try to sleep with her. But I think that's kind of understandable, if she did start it.