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[Reelyanoob]

It's funny that I still rely so much on non-lethal takedowns, even though I'm more than willing to blow the no-kills ending.  I think killing guys with environmental hazards and reprogrammed machinery, and even ally kills, still counts, because I've never once gotten through the first Battery Park / Warehouse segment without being flagged as bloodthirty, no matter what I do.  I just wish there was a way to knock out Commandos, just to see the looks on their faces.

Dammit I'm gonna have to load this up now, to science the non-lethal win. You have to hit Commando's in the small of the back with a Baton or Taser for a non-lethal. I used to love taking Commandos out like that. Makes you feel pretty god-like, taking out armoured killers with a single hit from a stick. Might want to save/restore to practice the exact hit location, it's pretty small. You can do this with MIBS or WIBS too and they are carrying weapon upgrade nano-packs. That's harder than the Commando's.

Hmmm is Battery park the bit after you take the speedboat from Liberty, eg "level 2"? On that one I recall you have to explode the vending machine on the pier and sneak in through there. Just going near the proper entrance get's you tagged as bloodthirsty. Basically ignore Anna's orders and do your own mission.

if Battery park is actually the later part with plague-ridden bums everywhere, well I'm sure I got through that without being called bloodthirsty either. It was fun saving the train tunnel hostages without using lethal force.

Last time I played this was about 2004, hope my memories help.

Which brings me to my question of why the thing takes up four inventory slots, when it clearly is a lightsaber that takes up no more space than the handle.  It's not like this GEP Gun isn't punishingly bulky enough.

It's not a 'lightsaber' AFAIR, it's a nano-blade which just happens to glow in the dark. All that means is the cutting edge is one molecule thick.

[Gunner-Chan]

Yeah for battery park if you don't go in by the vending machine secret Anna and the Unatco troopers will storm the place and you get tagged as being involved. The only way to do it is sneak in through there, find the stuff and get back out without ever getting back to ground level any way besides through the vending machine. You also need to sneak around and get the hostages in the subway out without bloodshed.

[Zrk2]

I clicked the link in the quote in Janet's sig and apparently I can't access it. The mystery leaves me intruiged until the dull face of truth rears it's ugly head and destroys the glorious noodle incident that currently resides in the confines of by soul.

[Fenrir]

The world may never know. That was probably a thread that was deleted, as Toady One deletes threads when things go pear shaped.

[iceball3]

Pff, Acanthus is just jealous of ein's is awesome.

[Darvi]

So apparently I'm Batman.

[Gunner-Chan]

It was a spambot thread actually.

[Darvi]

It was a spambot thread actually.

Wat. Huh?

[Gunner-Chan]

My sig comes from a spambot thread that's now deleted. And Acanthus is referring to me along with ein.

I am the scarificator of eggs. Fear me. Rwar.

[Zrk2]

Ah reality, slayer of wonder!

[Jopax]

Saw the sun rise, the weather is nice and cool, some clouds are lazily floating around, quite a glorious morning i say!

I also have a big mug of coffe, lots of sugar and some milk, hopefully i won't get drowsy until late afternoon, by then it shouldn't be that hot and i could probably sleep outside.

[Reelyanoob]

I just wanted to say one of the harder "Easter Eggs" to get in Deus Ex is getting a hotel proprietor to kill a gangster himself. You can kill or disable him yourself very easily, but the plot changes (just a little, but in a happy way) if the hotel owner does it himself (give him a pistol, help him out, be careful to only soften up the gangster, save beforehand because it's really touchy).

Aquizar - you might want to try for this one if you've finished Deus Ex before but never done that, there's other dialogue you miss out on (in a later mission) by doing this, so it's nice to do both ways if you play more than once so you see what you averted. Either way is not the end of the world, but it's nice to affect a game-world's characters happy endings.

[ToonyMan]

I unfortunately didn't give him the gun and didn't have a save beforehand.  :[  I felt like a douche bag, clearly giving a gun to a disgruntled citizen is the only solution.

[Jopax]

Good morning Bay12, have some Nyan cat awesomeness

[olemars]

I unfortunately didn't give him the gun and didn't have a save beforehand.  :[  I felt like a douche bag, clearly giving a gun to a disgruntled citizen is the only solution.

What a shame.