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Author Topic: [MILK] There were 12 eggs here what did you do with them? (Happy thread?!)  (Read 16180081 times)

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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40230 on: February 22, 2011, 07:19:27 pm »

This is really surprising to me, considering the entire sum of his character is "A scientific genius with the emotional depth of a paper plate.  Everybody hates him but he's too self-absorbed and dense to realize it, so it's ok."  I can't understand what's positive about this.  And with the level of cluelessness out there regarding autism (I've had to educate a lot of people), I expect such a high profile media portrayal to have a large effect on common preconceptions.

I don't get why you'd adopt him as a portrayal of autism. He only misunderstands social norms when the writers want to make a joke. Seems to make perfectly good eye contact to me. Speaks as if he obviously wishes to be heard. He's just a self-obsessed prick. A narcissist.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40231 on: February 22, 2011, 07:22:36 pm »

I don't even know show this Sheldon character is from.  I get the feeling I should.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40232 on: February 22, 2011, 07:23:26 pm »

Apparently there's this nerd-themed sitcom called The Big Bang Theory. Apparently it has a character named Sheldon in it, who exhibits autism-ish traits that are then mocked by the other characters. Apparently that's somehow supposed to be funny.
Hey I make fun of autistic people and I'm autistic. Just like I make fun of black people around my black friend.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40233 on: February 22, 2011, 07:25:44 pm »

Just like I make fun of black people around my black friend.

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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40234 on: February 22, 2011, 07:27:32 pm »

Hey, I only have two friends, c'mon.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40235 on: February 22, 2011, 07:40:11 pm »

Hey I make fun of autistic people and I'm autistic. Just like I make fun of black people around my black friend.

My friends and I generally make fun of each other in a variety of ways but amongst friends is different from national television.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40236 on: February 22, 2011, 07:40:32 pm »

I've been depressed for a bit now, usually it goes away but at least I'm biding my time instead of dwelling on it I guess.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40237 on: February 22, 2011, 07:42:16 pm »

Hey, I only have two friends, c'mon.
And you alienate one of them by being racist around them.

Sorry, but 'I have a black friend', is not as good an excuse as people would think.
You want to diss on them, Get black.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40238 on: February 22, 2011, 07:52:43 pm »

Hey, I only have two friends, c'mon.
And you alienate one of them by being racist around them.

Sorry, but 'I have a black friend', is not as good an excuse as people would think.
You want to diss on them, Get black.
Hey he laughs and agrees with me.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40239 on: February 22, 2011, 07:53:05 pm »

well i've got some wierd neck-headache flu that's been killing me for a few days, but i just got extremely powerful pain killers.   Now I'm sooooo happy.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40240 on: February 22, 2011, 07:59:49 pm »

I'm more thinking it would be hilarious if someone turned themselves black, just so they could be racist. Or, Not be racist.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40241 on: February 22, 2011, 08:04:03 pm »

I'm more thinking it would be hilarious if someone turned themselves black, just so they could be racist. Or, Not be racist.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40242 on: February 22, 2011, 08:11:19 pm »

This is really surprising to me, considering the entire sum of his character is "A scientific genius with the emotional depth of a paper plate.  Everybody hates him but he's too self-absorbed and dense to realize it, so it's ok."  I can't understand what's positive about this.  And with the level of cluelessness out there regarding autism (I've had to educate a lot of people), I expect such a high profile media portrayal to have a large effect on common preconceptions.

Because at least it's better than "all autistic people are totally worthless drains to society who need to be cured of their traits."  This is the common perception, as far as I can tell.  At the very least, most people don't know anything about the "spectrum" and seem to be heavily into the "well, you have it or you don't" territory, where "have it" is "low-functioning never-learned-to-speak autism" and anything in between is just lack of trying, poor mothering (see "refrigerator mother" theory, which my mother used to believe in) and social callousness on the part of the sufferer.

It is, at the very least, a semi-human face on a collection of symptoms which is usually ignored.


I don't get why you'd adopt him as a portrayal of autism. He only misunderstands social norms when the writers want to make a joke. Seems to make perfectly good eye contact to me. Speaks as if he obviously wishes to be heard. He's just a self-obsessed prick. A narcissist.

And take a look at the shows/books where people are intentionally portraying autism.  The Mysterious Case of the Dog in the Night Time, Mozart and the Whale, Born on a Blue Day, and so on.  The autistic folks I've spoken to about these things were downright offended by their lack of depth and "dishonesty," despite the last having been written by an autistic person.

Weird social behaviors?  Check.  Sensory stuff?  Check.  Obsessive information-gathering?  Check.  Doesn't seem to care much about other people's opinions or feelings?  Check.

Now, let's pretend that you have a lot of trouble with socializing, and you see the above behaviors.  You may not think "self-absorbed prick," because you can't figure out his motivations.  But there is a motivation that makes sense to you, because that is your motivation--the motivation called "he has no idea what he's doing or why it's inappropriate, just like me, and just like me, everyone makes fun of him."


Of course, these same people also attempted to appropriate Doctor Gregory House, so your mileage may vary wildly.
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Re: [:3] Things that made you HAPPY today thread. Pick flowers or die~♥
« Reply #40243 on: February 22, 2011, 08:12:50 pm »

I'm glad i can analyze much more than just logic.

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« Reply #40244 on: February 22, 2011, 08:20:19 pm »

Now, let's pretend that you have a lot of trouble with socializing, and you see the above behaviors.  You may not think "self-absorbed prick," because you can't figure out his motivations.  But there is a motivation that makes sense to you, because that is your motivation--the motivation called "he has no idea what he's doing or why it's inappropriate, just like me, and just like me, everyone makes fun of him."

So, some autistic people don't like portrayals of autism written by autistic people, but some have "adopted" a relatively friendly caricature of an autistic person as a good mascot.  The big key to autism being a lack of ability to understand others' motivations...  Hence arguing about the portrayal and motivations of ostensibly autistic characters...  I'm not entire sure where the pivot point is or who's "wrong", but the irony is thick enough to cut with a knife.
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