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Author Topic: [MILK] There were 12 eggs here what did you do with them? (Happy thread?!)  (Read 16317889 times)

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Re: [Tomoko~] Because I'm not popular, Ill have an emotion thread (Happy Thread)
« Reply #98520 on: February 01, 2013, 09:57:05 am »

I understood as much as you did. >.>

Still, my current status is:
That moment when you are struggling with some concept and suddenly it dawns on you. >_<

Of course, I still have a lot of other things to figure out, like how to find the limit in computer-world, or what the heck "split the fluid proportionally to the corresponding
difference ΔIn and apply the respective directional derivatives from lower cells" means, or how I project a vector to ... another vector? And what's "integrating the amount of fluid in the definition of the function F(x,y)" supposed to mean? T_T Also, I think they're missing a variable definition.
So.... one.
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Re: [Tomoko~] Because I'm not popular, Ill have an emotion thread (Happy Thread)
« Reply #98521 on: February 01, 2013, 10:04:34 am »

I understood as much as you did. >.>

Still, my current status is:
That moment when you are struggling with some concept and suddenly it dawns on you. >_<

Of course, I still have a lot of other things to figure out, like how to find the limit in computer-world, or what the heck "split the fluid proportionally to the corresponding
difference ΔIn and apply the respective directional derivatives from lower cells" means, or how I project a vector to ... another vector? And what's "integrating the amount of fluid in the definition of the function F(x,y)" supposed to mean? T_T Also, I think they're missing a variable definition.
So.... one.
Integrating (and this is a metaphor:) is getting the area under a line or volume under a plane. It's the exact opposite of a derivative (as in, if you integrate and then derive you should arrive at the same function, give or take some constants ).
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Re: [Tomoko~] Because I'm not popular, Ill have an emotion thread (Happy Thread)
« Reply #98522 on: February 01, 2013, 10:07:13 am »

I do know what integration and differentiation are. I just don't know what the author means by "integrate the amount of fluid in the definition of the function F(x,y)" and how it relates to fluid in adjacent cells interacting with each other. :<
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« Reply #98523 on: February 01, 2013, 10:17:17 am »

Assuming you have the height as some kind of wave-surface, integrating that wavesurface for a specific area gives you the amount of water in that area, and it's relevant to know that compared to the amount in the cell next to it?

I'm just guessing, I'll need the context :)
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Re: [Tomoko~] Because I'm not popular, Ill have an emotion thread (Happy Thread)
« Reply #98524 on: February 01, 2013, 10:20:33 am »

(In case anyone's wondering, here is where I'm getting all my problems from. I wholly blame alway for introducing me to this...)


This part? xD I'm not quite understanding how the acceleration vectors obtained move the water from place to place, while avoiding the problem of local minima... The phrase in question is near Equation 13.

And I need to sleep soon D: Too little time for plumbing the depths of advancedish math and physics...

Also, since you're looking at it, do you know what the variable T might be in equations 14~16?
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 10:23:41 am by Skyrunner »
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« Reply #98525 on: February 01, 2013, 11:09:27 am »

Well, most of that paper seems to have entirely overly complicated equations. It could be a transpose operation. Entirely unnecessary for code, but it may make it technically more mathematically correct. As for programming, we don't care whether it's a row vector or column vector.

The delta (triangles pointing up) just means 'change in.' In those equations, I(x,y) = H(x,y) + K * F(x,y), where H is soil height and F is fluid height. Delta I in a grid is the difference between the I values between 2 points; in this case the current point and a neighbor.

For splitting the fluid proportionally, you find:
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sum = 0
for each neighborPoint,
{
delta I = I(thisPoint) - I(neighborPoint)
if (delta I > 0)  //downward slope
sum += delta I
}
for each neighborPoint,
{
delta I = I(thisPoint) - I(neighborPoint)
if (delta I > 0)
proportion(neighborPoint) = delta I / sum
else
proportion(neighborPoint) = 0
}
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 11:13:44 am by alway »
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Re: [Tomoko~] Because I'm not popular, Ill have an emotion thread (Happy Thread)
« Reply #98526 on: February 01, 2013, 11:10:47 am »

I like it when SMBC gets contemplative from time to time.
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« Reply #98527 on: February 01, 2013, 12:06:44 pm »

The exchange went really well! Hell, *all* the teachers are complimenting our class because we did so well.

And the Walloons were friendly too. BUT HOLY FUCK THAT SCHOOL WAS HUGE.
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Re: [Tomoko~] Because I'm not popular, Ill have an emotion thread (Happy Thread)
« Reply #98528 on: February 01, 2013, 12:25:35 pm »

The 6 Nations starts this weekend. Bye bye any kind of "doing stuff" weekends, hello a 6 week long binge of rugby  :D.

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« Reply #98529 on: February 01, 2013, 12:27:57 pm »

The 6 Nations starts this weekend. Bye bye any kind of "doing stuff" weekends, hello a 6 week long binge of rugby  :D.

Were you the kind of bloke who went mad when we got the GSlam last year? :P
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« Reply #98530 on: February 01, 2013, 12:30:16 pm »

The 6 Nations starts this weekend. Bye bye any kind of "doing stuff" weekends, hello a 6 week long binge of rugby  :D.

Were you the kind of bloke who went mad when we got the GSlam last year? :P

Maybe a little  ;D. I am old enough to remember the horrible 80's and 90's, and am more than familiar with the boom and bust that is Welsh rugby, so like to try and keep my expectations low.

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« Reply #98531 on: February 01, 2013, 01:07:42 pm »

It turns out Domino's has a built-in limit on the number of toppings you can put on a pizza online. My scheme to set every cheese to triple is a failure.
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« Reply #98532 on: February 01, 2013, 01:11:02 pm »

It turns out Domino's has a built-in limit on the number of toppings you can put on a pizza online. My scheme to set every cheese to triple is a failure.
You're happy that your scheme failed?
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« Reply #98533 on: February 01, 2013, 01:12:21 pm »

I suspect that post was written by Bauglir's arteries.

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« Reply #98534 on: February 01, 2013, 01:18:13 pm »

Even if the scheme failed, there's still a lot of cheese. Triple mozzarella, feta, double parmesan/asiago, double provolone. There's also some anchovies and spinach in there.
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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