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[hector13]

That’s pretty much how I felt about stats when I was at uni too.

[King Zultan]

I was born today.

[MaxTheFox]

Oh I'm well aware of naval cooperation with civilians and hiring contractors (they have to shuttle the contractors off the carriers when the fleet engages in any "combat" action, even if no actual shooting takes place), but picking up hitchhikers from a nominally neutral port because they're in legal trouble, purely out of charitable goodwill, would not go well in today's military. They're harboring fugitives, at that point, and interfering in another nations' "justice" system, and just begging for a diplomatic incident that ends with the captain at least getting shafted, mission success or not.

They have a plan.

I was born today.

Happy birthday!

[scriver]

I was born today.

Happy bornsday!

[Loud Whispers]

Oh I'm well aware of naval cooperation with civilians and hiring contractors (they have to shuttle the contractors off the carriers when the fleet engages in any "combat" action, even if no actual shooting takes place), but picking up hitchhikers from a nominally neutral port because they're in legal trouble, purely out of charitable goodwill, would not go well in today's military. They're harboring fugitives, at that point, and interfering in another nations' "justice" system, and just begging for a diplomatic incident that ends with the captain at least getting shafted, mission success or not.

Royal navy 200 years ago would 1000% do that. They were infamous for interfering with other nations justice systems, even allied ones, causing diplomatic incidents, ignoring the government in Westminster and acting however their personal morality saw fit. Because it could take weeks for the government to even find out what you had done, and then weeks still to send your orders lololololol

There are two kinds of militaries. Ones where "what is not explicitly forbidden is permitted," and one where "what is not explicitly permitted is forbidden." And even within a military, the culture an officer cultivates may widely shape the attitudes of one regiment or ship compared to another. Extraterritoriality as a concept was largely developed due to European naval powers interfering with the sovereignty of local powers to protect their citizens, or the citizens of other European/American polities, from prosecution in arbitrary courts with punishments like "throw in snake pit" or "death by a thousand slices." So I am always generous with these kinds of things, because just because something is one way with one organisation today, does not mean it would always be that way in any time, any setting with any peoples

I was born today.

Merry birthday!!!

[Sirus]

Less than a day old and already posting on the forums? Man, kids get more precocious by the year.

(Happy birthday)

[delphonso]

I was born today.

Don't tell me you've gone Born-again Christian...

[Magmacube_tr]

I was born today.

🎂

(birth)

[MaxTheFox]

Oh I'm well aware of naval cooperation with civilians and hiring contractors (they have to shuttle the contractors off the carriers when the fleet engages in any "combat" action, even if no actual shooting takes place), but picking up hitchhikers from a nominally neutral port because they're in legal trouble, purely out of charitable goodwill, would not go well in today's military. They're harboring fugitives, at that point, and interfering in another nations' "justice" system, and just begging for a diplomatic incident that ends with the captain at least getting shafted, mission success or not.

Royal navy 200 years ago would 1000% do that. They were infamous for interfering with other nations justice systems, even allied ones, causing diplomatic incidents, ignoring the government in Westminster and acting however their personal morality saw fit. Because it could take weeks for the government to even find out what you had done, and then weeks still to send your orders lololololol

There are two kinds of militaries. Ones where "what is not explicitly forbidden is permitted," and one where "what is not explicitly permitted is forbidden." And even within a military, the culture an officer cultivates may widely shape the attitudes of one regiment or ship compared to another. Extraterritoriality as a concept was largely developed due to European naval powers interfering with the sovereignty of local powers to protect their citizens, or the citizens of other European/American polities, from prosecution in arbitrary courts with punishments like "throw in snake pit" or "death by a thousand slices." So I am always generous with these kinds of things, because just because something is one way with one organisation today, does not mean it would always be that way in any time, any setting with any peoples

Also this.

The Alliance hates the Abyssals and their Sphere. A rival, like the Hegemony. There's not much that Yectkogg could really do? What are they going to do even if there is a diplomatic accident? They're already under sanctions, as Yeremey (that ragged Canid trader) said.

It'd be different if, I dunno, they harbored political/religious fugitives from the Chohjozra Nrukhrizchaa, an Alliance tin-pot "democracy". But instead it's Yectkogg, a lapdog of one of Terra's greatest rivals.

[dragdeler]

Happy birthday monarch²!

[Loud Whispers]

Also this.

The Alliance hates the Abyssals and their Sphere. A rival, like the Hegemony. There's not much that Yectkogg could really do? What are they going to do even if there is a diplomatic accident? They're already under sanctions, as Yeremey (that ragged Canid trader) said.

It'd be different if, I dunno, they harbored political/religious fugitives from the Chohjozra Nrukhrizchaa, an Alliance tin-pot "democracy". But instead it's Yectkogg, a lapdog of one of Terra's greatest rivals.

If anyone ever tells you "no navy would ever do anything outside of protocol" I'm reminded of the ROC Chung Yung accidentally spotting the PLAN's attempt to launch a massive naval invasion of Taiwan, sinking numerous transport ships and becoming the hero of the battle. The only reason it was in that area was because the Captain was ignoring orders from command to use the ROC Chung Yung to smuggle brown suger and peanut oil as a side hustle

[Grim Portent]

Got around to replacing my laptop, so now I should be able to play all my games properly again, and join in some of my MMO guild's events without my laptop shutting off during every fight that involves lots of flashy visuals. Hooray for remote social interaction!

[Eric Blank]

The whole reason the events stand out to me as odd is because it's not the military culture I've been taught to expect I guess.

[King Zultan]

Thanks everybody!

I was born today.

Don't tell me you've gone Born-again Christian...

I think I'd catch fire before I got near the church to try.

[MaxTheFox]

Thanks all!

The twenty-first chapter of my hard sci-fi space opera is released! This is a chonky one. Elektra finally gets to do her job. The unlikely passengers they found in Ch.18 get comfortable... ish. And finally the group leaves this accursed station, as the plot threads set up on it get tied back up. Enjoy! The next chapter might be somewhat shorter. We're entering the last legs of the crew's journey.

The twenty-second chapter of my hard sci-fi space opera is released! This is another long chapter. Most importantly, a lot of important worldbuilding happens here! Most of the nations described here will be very important to future books and the later chapters of this book. But there are also some insights into what relmai culture is like, for those who (as recommended) are starting with this book.

A starmap has been added to the post-chapter author's note. Will be updated each chapter. I'm posting it here, for those who aren't following along with the book (no spoilers in it, tbh).

Spoiler: Huge image, scroll around and stuff (click to show/hide)

This is highly WIP. I ran out of time, but in the next chapter the path to Ilsh will be finished, and the Pheidippides' path will be marked (as of the end of this chapter it's slightly above the T in "Triarchy"). Enjoy this for now-- I felt it was justified here since there was a lot of astropolitics talk. Disclaimer: the Oval is fully 3D as it is too small-scale for the flatness of the galaxy to affect it in any way. Thus, this map is "flattened". For the purposes of this map, consider countries to also neighbor their neighbors' neighbors in many places. For example, the BFR borders the Relmai Commonwealth, despite that not being shown on the map. Also, the borders are actually much fuzzier with a lot of protrusions and exclave stars-- these have been smoothed out for ease of viewing.
_{Yes, the BFR's location contradicts Kayden's line in the first book about it being in the north. The out-of-universe explanation is that I felt the north of Terra was already crowded with statelets. The in-universe explanation is that Kayden, being an American (if a space American), is horrible at geography and by extension astrography. :p}