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[tigrex]

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I just accidentally tunnelled into the HFS.  I managed to wall off the tunnel, but my FPS dropped so I know that evil is stirring.

The question is:  will demons attack creatures other than dwarves?  Goblins, perhaps?  Because if so (and they're hardly very demonic if they don't...) then I have a plan.  I want to dig a seperate tunnel between the eerie glowing pit and the surface.  Then, when goblins show up, I seal off my fort, and open the path, thus giving the demons some fresh meat to path to.  Granted, immigration and trading will take a steep nosedive with 30 tentacle demons on the loose, but, frankly, that will be incredibly amusing to watch anyway.

Alternatively, can goblin sieges be lured within range of the HFS, perhaps by having the only path to my dwarves going past it?

If demons show even a passing hostility to invaders, this could be both an interesting megaproject and an awesome FTW device.

[smjjames]

You can't tame sentients.

[Jim Groovester]

That's not the issue.

The issue is whether or not goblins and other invaders are hostile to the [REDACTED] from the [REDACTED].

I suspect that they will be hostile, but there's only one way you can be sure. Throw a few goblins in to the [REDACTED] and see what happens to them.

[Randomonioum]

You can't tame sentients.

Thats not what he meant. He was asking whether demons attack goblins ect. so he could use them as a trap component.

EDIT: Oh god, ninja. Still, you explain it better than me.

[Randall Octagonapus]

Although if you add the TRAINABLE tag you can make war tentacle demons

[XSI]

Although if you add the TRAINABLE tag you can make war tentacle demons

And some dwarves will like them as a pet.

For 'corrupt intentions'.

Even male dwarves have the possibility to want that as far as I know.(And for the mental image, you're welcome)

[Randomonioum]

On the topic of taming, I hear dwarf companion has a pretty useful tool for making war animals... 

[IronBeer]

Well, here's a pointer that may help answer your question. Who are the leaders of Gobbo civs? That's right. Demons.

Therefore, it would not be wise to trust fortress defense to unpredictable (actually too predictable), extremely violent, and ultimately completely ineffective (for the purpose you want, anyways) creatures. Any of the HFS creatures would slaughter your fortress shoulder-to-shoulder with the Goblins.

[Hamster Man]

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Regardless, its a fair question, and I'm honestly not sure. The real problem is that many (or all) of them are building destroyers and trap avoiders, so it would be near impossible to keep them out with the goblins once let loose (and some fly!!).

It probably could be done if you're extremely careful and don't mind losing a dwarf or two, but there are likely more efficient methods available.

...

Then again, this is dwarf fortress. Go for it.

[tigrex]

I'm frankly surprised that no one's attempted it yet.  If they won't attack goblins, I hope they at least try to eat elves.

My personal hunch is that they won't make even a token effort to leave their sanctuary to attack anything that isn't dwarven.  But no harm in trying.

Right now, my fort uses an airlock layout of bridges to keep itself sealed when needed.  I could easily modify this with a configuration that keeps the fort sealed while letting the demons out via my trading area.  Since I don't think demons can smash drawbridges, only immigrants would be at risk.

[Demonic Spoon]

Actually, I think they can smash drawbridges, thus, I always add a dry moat to my drawbridges. Remember that you can't atomsmash demons!

[tigrex]

Actually, I think they can smah drawbridges, thus, I always add a dry moat to my drawrbridges. Remember that you can't atomsmash demons!

Noted, thanks.  The passage to the surface is almost done.

[OneRaven]

Actually, I think they can smah drawbridges, thus, I always add a dry moat to my drawrbridges. Remember that you can't atomsmash demons!

Remember that some of them can fly!

[Dakk]

Actually, I think they can smah drawbridges, thus, I always add a dry moat to my drawrbridges. Remember that you can't atomsmash demons!

Remember that some of them can fly!

Endboss demon types can, and so does SoF, but SoF atm seem to not know that they can do it and won't cross moats. Or at least the ones with water on it, never tried empty moats.

[Demonic Spoon]

Umm, so after some reading of the wiki it would appear that there is a inconsistency somewhere. All demons have the building destroyer 2 tag which also according the the wiki should allow them to destroy drawbridges... However the demons article claims that they cannot destroy drawbridges...

Could someone test this and correct the wiki please?