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[lordnincompoop]

I'm curious: how did you draw hair in this picture?

I put my pencil on the paper and moved my hand around.


More seriously: There's no set technique, and the tricks I use with my pencils are probably unhelpful to you. Study real hair, and pay attention to specularity.

[Ogdibus]

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[lordnincompoop]

Google "contour line" and "line weight", if you aren't familiar with them.

The above two concepts would belong more in the world of anime drawing and manga than they do in more classical styles of art. Call me prejudiced, but there you go.

Speaking of contours, making studies with map-style contours is a great way to learn to perceive form and shapes. As an example (courtesy of Google):



Now, this is a pretty basic (and not very well done) example, but it should provide enough of an example; try it out. Personally, I never had the discipline or patience - I suppose that's another thing I need to work on.

[Soadreqm]

Google "contour line" and "line weight", if you aren't familiar with them.

The above two concepts would belong more in the world of anime drawing and manga than they do in more classical styles of art.

I'd definitely say they're the kind of universal concepts you're going to be ramming straight into when you examine anything that involves lines. For instance, here (Warning: 5.9MB) (Warning: Full frontal nudity) is a ink drawing by the legendary mangaka and renaissance man, Leonardo da Vinci. See how some of the lines are thicker than others, and some taper off into nothingness until they're implied instead of actually existing on paper? You really can't escape it.

[strongrudder]

^Truth.

They're based on concepts that you need for representational art in general. Line weight deals with conveying the volumes of a subject without the benefit of a range of values, like you would have in a photorealistic charcoal drawing or a painting. It's just been translated for a medium where your input is essentially binary: it's there or it's not, with little or no room for grays.

I try not to get annoyed when people try to sort out hierarchies between different media or styles in art, but... well, I do. :q

[lordnincompoop]

^Truth.

Things like line weight are based on universal concepts that you need for representational art in general, but used in cases where you only have binary input, such as ink drawings. Line weight in particular deals with conveying the volumes of a subject without the benefit of a range of values, like you would have in a photorealistic charcoal drawing or a painting. The contour lines are simply outlining the edges in a way that makes it feel like it exists in 3D space.

I try not to get annoyed when people try to sort out hierarchies between different media or styles in art, but... well, I do. :q

I suppose that's a fair point when it comes to line weight, but as you have also mentioned, my initial point was that line weight is a concept more readily applied to inking and manga drawing or whatever than it is as an answer to Guardian GI's question (which addresses another medium with more leeway in terms of tone and value).

Contour lines are not necessary to make something look "3D". I'd pull some examples, but they're easy enough to find if you study certain painters (there were a few at CA, but I forget the names).

Never said anything about hierarchies (or the implied inferiority, for that matter).

[strongrudder]

And I said nothing about contour lines being needed to convey three-dimensionality for every art ever. Just linear (or contrasty) ones, where the slightest mishandling of that outline can take your drawing from amazing to flat with ease.

Your use of the word "prejudice" and its context is probably what set me off, tbh. What exactly is meant by "classical" art? Paintings? Full-value graphite drawings? An amorphous blob of what is popularly considered "fine art"? Soadrqm provided a "classical" ink drawing, which indeed shows use of contour lines (a given) and some nicely done line weight. If you mean "this does not apply to the medium I was using," then just say that. c:

[Ogdibus]

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[Guardian G.I.]

This discussion is moving into the very dangerous "What the hell is fine art" territory.
Be careful, guys.

[bombzero]

Just two little "speed paintings" I scribbled up using nothing but a flat brush set to a single size while I was bored.



Each one took 5-10 minutes.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

possibly the worst thing ever done to a 40ies magazine. i'm not really interested in criticism, constructive or otherwise, at least till tomorrow night
http://imgur.com/a/RxS9B#5 (caution, gayness!)

[bombzero]

possibly the worst thing ever done to a 40ies magazine. i'm not really interested in criticism, constructive or otherwise, at least till tomorrow night
http://imgur.com/a/RxS9B#5 (caution, gayness!)

All of my wat.


Also, I have no god damn clue what I'm doing but I think I just got better at shading.

[Mr Space Cat]

possibly the worst thing ever done to a 40ies magazine. i'm not really interested in criticism, constructive or otherwise, at least till tomorrow night
http://imgur.com/a/RxS9B#5 (caution, gayness!)

All of my wat.

This literally shorted out my brain for a few minutes.

...Is that...hair coming out of his nostrils? It's incredibly silky.

[bombzero]

More playing around with brush settings.

[mendonca]

possibly the worst thing ever done to a 40ies magazine. i'm not really interested in criticism, constructive or otherwise, at least till tomorrow night
http://imgur.com/a/RxS9B#5 (caution, gayness!)

Ha! I seriously love all of that.

Would love some of those framed on the wall.