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[Nivim]

I was going through the illustrations I've planned for RTDMM's final update, but when I got to this one I unexpectedly decided to try and experiment. This is the first time I've drawn anything (well, digitally anyway) without any sort of outlines. Turned out to be kinda fun. I'll try it with some proper scenes later.

It's not much of a spoiler (just a scenic view), but just in case you don't want to see it before the rest of the update:

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This image is the first of yours I've seen that hasn't looked stilted and generic, and that I haven't wanted to imediatelly close the spoiler of before it ruins my own mental images. Perhaps now that you've used so many outlines, the art you draw in your own style will be rather good.

[Sensei]

(Kim's Fried Chicken)

[freeformschooler]

I just don't know where to put this, it's of Darvi's avatar, and I tried my darndest to get the proportions better than 60% of my drawings.

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Obviously the shape of the head isn't "right", that part was intentional. Also, I did this one without any references, and that tends to destroy my drawings.

And sensei, we all love you.

[Jopax]

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I want all the nitpicky faults you can find, GO!

[strongrudder]

Your handling of light and color continues to improve! The brushstrokes are still a bit distracting (I like visible strokes, but a lot of obvious lines across a large area looks sloppy). Still, tons better than where you started.

As far as nitpicks... I guess the only real complaints I have involve bits where I'm not quite buying the volume in the shapes. Like the upper left (his right) arm. Is it supposed to be boxlike, made out of rectangles? If so, is it twisted a bit? Or is it a wonky cylinder with seams? Not quite sure. The shoulder area that it's feeding into doesn't seem to have a very large opening for it to fit. Is it pinching there? His smaller gun arm is a little ambiguous on form as well.

I like that head/turret thing and the upper torso, though. Nice colors, light, and volume on those.

[Lofn]

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Quick and dirty pic to break in my new tablet. Nothing new or exciting here.

[Jopax]

Your handling of light and color continues to improve! The brushstrokes are still a bit distracting (I like visible strokes, but a lot of obvious lines across a large area looks sloppy). Still, tons better than where you started.

As far as nitpicks... I guess the only real complaints I have involve bits where I'm not quite buying the volume in the shapes. Like the upper left (his right) arm. Is it supposed to be boxlike, made out of rectangles? If so, is it twisted a bit? Or is it a wonky cylinder with seams? Not quite sure. The shoulder area that it's feeding into doesn't seem to have a very large opening for it to fit. Is it pinching there? His smaller gun arm is a little ambiguous on form as well.

I like that head/turret thing and the upper torso, though. Nice colors, light, and volume on those.

They are supposed to be round, but i can see what you mean, i never could do cylinders properly when it came to highlighting them (it shows on the smaller gun barrells too). As far as thick lines and obvious brush strokes go i blame my laziness for that.I usually start with a general shape then gradually tighten it down over several layers untill i have the desired shape and some details in, by this point i am usually done with the torso, head and probably one of the arms but i get anxious to color and shade the damn thing so i usually skip the rest to get there faster, that is why most of my works have sucky legs XD

[freeformschooler]

I got a question guys. How do you fill in brush-made strokes nicely in Photoshop/GIMP? Even with the tolerance way up and antialiasing on with the bucket tool, filling them tends to give results like this:

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The best solution I have is to avoid the fill tool and color on a different layer.

[burningpet]

Use hard brushes and the edges should be filled fine.

[lordnincompoop]

bucket tool

Here's your problem. Don't use the bucket tool.

[Akigagak]

bucket tool

Here's your problem. Don't use the bucket tool.

This. Use Layers instead. Use a transparent layer for the line work, and a layer beneath it for the colouring.

[Soadreqm]

The best solution I have is to avoid the fill tool and color on a different layer.

That really is the best solution. You can also not use antialiasing, in which case the bucket tool will work, but that leads to a whole different aesthetic. I think flood fill just mathematically works in a way that stops you from using it on antialiased images.

I haven't made anything worthwhile lately, so here's some idle doodles.

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[freeformschooler]

Use hard brushes and the edges should be filled fine.

Aww, but the square brush looks so pretty.

bucket tool

Here's your problem. Don't use the bucket tool.

This. Use Layers instead. Use a transparent layer for the line work, and a layer beneath it for the colouring.

Yeah, that's about what I thought. I've begun to draw that way mostly. Back when I used a mouse I didn't bother with the brush tool and just used the pencil and bucket, but tablet+brush tool gives a wide array of nice looks (including the sketch look from MKWRTD's illustrations I've been doing).

[Jopax]

Select tools, mainly magic wand and lasso tool in photoshop, lets you select the desired shape and paint within it as much as you please, one of the ways i've found to do the cleanup at the end of a drawing, selecting your outlines as you desire them then painting in the background freely around the charachter without any fear of messing up the main piece.

[freeformschooler]

Select tools, mainly magic wand and lasso tool in photoshop, lets you select the desired shape and paint within it as much as you please, one of the ways i've found to do the cleanup at the end of a drawing, selecting your outlines as you desire them then painting in the background freely around the charachter without any fear of messing up the main piece.

Actually, the magic wand tool works under the same logic as the paint bucket tool when it comes to antialiased lines, unless they've fixed that since Photoshop CS3. You can select inside it but without doing something like select>grow, there will be a few pixels that don't get selected barring something weird like ridiculously high tolerance.

Less work to paint on a different layer.