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Muz

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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2009, 06:54:05 am »

Pornography is sad. Erotica is artistic expression, kind of what the Saw movies do, but it's also quite sad sometimes. From what I've been following of Rammstein, it's more likely erotica, as they like their music deep, dark, and poetic. I haven't seen or heard this new video, though, so I can't really tell.
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2009, 06:56:18 am »

Pussy falls under Erotica. It's pretty 'low' Erotica, but it falls close enough to the Art spectrum to fit in there.

Of course, the only certain thing about art is that nobody can agree on what constitutes it.

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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2009, 06:57:01 am »

Yeah, conflating porn with erotica will make some people very annoyed.  Then again, so does comparing trash with various works of modern art, and I still do that.  Porn is... hmm... probably not sad.  I'd agree with Jackrabbit that it's a combination of the desire to share and the desire to mate.  Whether watching it is sad, however, is open to debate.

To be honest, however, t's probably just a publicity stunt in this case.
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2009, 06:59:13 am »

I fail to see how porn is sad, but then again i also fail to see how sex is something shameful, so yeah.

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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2009, 09:07:25 am »

I fail to see how porn is sad, but then again i also fail to see how sex is something shameful, so yeah.
Eating food isn't shameful. Killing people with it in deathtraps for amusement is. See where I'm getting at? It isn't the original subject so much as what is done with said subject. That is why sex is such a hot topic. People don't know how to handle it. This applies for both people very liberal about it and people very conservative about it.
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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2009, 09:13:39 am »

Can't say I've seen any videos where sex is used to lure people into deathtraps.
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« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2009, 10:13:05 am »

They did it in Ghost Ship.  One of the ghosts appeared as a sexy naked lady and lured a guy into falling down an elevator shaft.
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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2009, 11:19:36 am »

Negated by the fact that Ghost Ship was shit.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2009, 01:16:22 pm by Stany »
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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2009, 01:14:34 pm »

The technical term is "So Bad It's Horrible".

BTW: This forum is to blame for my Tvtropes addiction.
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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2009, 02:22:01 pm »

Pornography is sad. Erotica is artistic expression, kind of what the Saw movies do, but it's also quite sad sometimes.
Ugh... 75% of porn has more art value than Saw movies. I'm absolutely certain Rammstein's video is more art than those movies will ever be, and I haven't even seen the video.
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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2009, 02:32:34 pm »

The term "Torture porn" comes to mind.  It's not a weird fetish thing, it's torture purely for the sake of revelling in someone's suffering.  I believe tvtropes has Gorn, which is quite similar.
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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2009, 10:17:26 pm »

I fail to see how porn is sad, but then again i also fail to see how sex is something shameful, so yeah.
Eating food isn't shameful. Killing people with it in deathtraps for amusement is. See where I'm getting at? It isn't the original subject so much as what is done with said subject. That is why sex is such a hot topic. People don't know how to handle it. This applies for both people very liberal about it and people very conservative about it.

I'm seriously not seeing the comparison here. If you use the eating food analogy then wouldn't pornography be watching somone else eat food?

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Re: New Rammstein Vid -german pussy-
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2009, 10:37:16 pm »

I fail to see how porn is sad, but then again i also fail to see how sex is something shameful, so yeah.
Eating food isn't shameful. Killing people with it in deathtraps for amusement is. See where I'm getting at? It isn't the original subject so much as what is done with said subject. That is why sex is such a hot topic. People don't know how to handle it. This applies for both people very liberal about it and people very conservative about it.

I'm seriously not seeing the comparison here. If you use the eating food analogy then wouldn't pornography be watching somone else eat food?
The analogy is along the lines of sex not being anything shameful and likely isn't what people find shameful. It is how it is handled that makes it what it is. Food is an action of life. Sex is as well. Just explaining why sane people find sex shameful.
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2009, 10:40:55 pm »

I get hungry when I see other people eat.
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Eating keeps the human race alive
sex keeps the human race alive etc.
Quite similar.
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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2009, 10:41:46 pm »

 I am apparently very bad at analogies.
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I would bet money Andrew has edited things retroactively, except I can't prove anything because it was edited retroactively.
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